#331 – Yevhenii, Live From Ukraine Pt. 2

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Yevhenii (00:00):

Not really understand about the, uh, open translation. There was, uh, guys from the some box. Yes. And the super team from, uh, Iceland. So it’s some dynamically. Yes. But, but strange a little bit.

Sevan Matossian (00:22):

Oh, the, the actual, the actual production you’re you’re referencing,

Yevhenii (00:27):

Uh, what

Sevan Matossian (00:28):

Are you, are you, are you referencing the open production with strange? Yeah,

Yevhenii (00:31):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (00:34):

It’s a strange, it’s a strange world right now. Yes, bam. We’re live.

Yevhenii (00:39):

Okay. Hi everyone.

Sevan Matossian (00:41):

You are, you you’re alive. Oh, shoot. Hold on. My, my perfect world is all up right now. Can you bring me my coffee? Can you bring me my coffee? Um, you’re

Yevhenii (00:59):

Yeah, one of my best was, uh, the last night, two nights we spent in the shelter cause uh, the alarm starts in three in the morning today. Yes. And we must go down and till the eight of the morning we sit there and I was exhausted. Cause I have a couple of, uh, couple hours of work today, train some people and then, uh, try to train by myself and yeah, it’s sort from the shelter look like that.

Sevan Matossian (01:37):

Yeah. GU is that really? Is that really a, what makes that place safe? Um,

Yevhenii (01:42):

Uh, it’s it’s a park place underground, so it’s uh, minus third floor. So it’s, uh, deep in the ground and there is, uh, some Funment yes. Of the, all the building. So, uh, that place might self.

Sevan Matossian (02:01):

I would be that I might get trapped in there.

Yevhenii (02:05):

Yeah, there is, there is this problem, but we have, uh, a couple of exits, so not only one. So if, uh, we have a problem with one, we can go another and another, another, a lot of exits there. So now we have there, uh, wifi. Yes. In turn that we have, uh, some, uh, electricity so we can put, uh, some hot stuff and, uh, not being called there, but it’s not my bed. Yes. And, uh, the sleep there is impossible. So I’m like this,

Sevan Matossian (02:48):

You’re a very handsome man and, and you’re young, so yeah, I don’t, I don’t see any signs of wear and tear on you, which is kind of amazing

Yevhenii (02:56):

And important that I’m alive. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (02:59):

Yes. You’re live. Um, for those of you who don’t know last week we met ye GU for the, uh, first time he is in Odessa Ukraine. We were, um, BA basically we’re using remarkable technology to find out what it’s like living in a, that’s being attacked by another country by its neighboring country. And, and I, and I would say that’s his, that I would, I would describe it as that. There’s obviously some issues. Um, both of us do CrossFit. You have GU has worked in the largest gym in the Ukraine, CrossFit affiliate in Ukraine. He

Yevhenii (03:37):

Is, I was, was worked.

Sevan Matossian (03:38):

That was yeah. Nine months ago. He really, um, uh, he’s a, he’s a, he’s, he’s a lover of CrossFit. Like all of us, he’s part of the community. And some of the, we were talking about some of the concerns, uh, in regards to, um, CrossFit HQ’s response to the war response to the Russian athletes, et cetera. But, but the conversation I think is also much bigger than that. It’s just, it’s, it’s, um, it’s healthy for the world to see, Hey, this is what a young man looks like in a country that’s being attacked by another country. And so, and we’re trying to, and, and those of us who are in the United States, I don’t know about those of you, who in another country, but the real problem that we have right now in the United States is that the news outlets that lied to us the last two years, I’m a mean, brutally lied to us are now covering the war that’s going on in, in Afghani’s, uh, beloved Homeland. And so we can’t trust them. So we, we don’t, we, we don’t have any news that we can trust in the United States. It’s, it’s, it’s a, it’s a mess, but we do know it’s we know pictures. Go ahead, go ahead.

Yevhenii (04:39):

It’s not only problem in USA. It’s a problem of all war. We have, uh, a lot of information and mostly it’s the fake fake news. And, uh, the point from, uh, some people who want to say that that’s right to you, right? So it’s not only a problem.

Sevan Matossian (04:58):

They, we, I could pull up the picture, but the classic example is they show us a person who is so a, a 16 year old boy, who’s 400 pounds. And they tell us, he was, the headline says, healthy boy dies of COVID. And you know that, you know, you can see it’s a lie, but, but the weird part is, is that people fall for it in this country. I don’t know if they fall for it in your country too. And so we’re just like this. Yeah. This is what, this is the news, perfectly healthy, 16 year old boy who loved photography died suddenly from COVID. And then if you scroll up and you see his picture, this boy, this boy is not perfectly healthy,

Yevhenii (05:36):

Very healthy.

Sevan Matossian (05:38):

And this isn’t, this isn’t isolated, this is the norm. Right? And so we have this huge, um, we have this huge vacuum of information. I do you, are you aware of this, um, movie that, um, people are talking about in the United States? It got banned from YouTube Oliver Stone’s movie.

Yevhenii (05:55):

Uh, so about that, I saw that I saw it early. I can’t find it now, uh, after we, uh, chat about it. Yes. But I saw it early.

Sevan Matossian (06:08):

Basically the pre to be honest with you was hard for me to follow. Um, but one of the premises in the movie and Oliver, I, it seems like Oliver stone is getting this from Putin. Of course, the leader of the country that’s attacking you. But that basically in your, I think it’s in your north, that there is a large faction of Nazis and that’s who he’s rooting out. I mean, it sounds like a Hollywood movie. Right?

Yevhenii (06:32):

Of course. Cause we, we have no PA uh, from Nazi here, I, I know about the European countries who have Anazi party Sweden, by the way is for the example. But, uh, we have no Ukraine. There was, there was some, uh, right party in 2014. Yes. It, the private sector right sector. But they have very little of people who, uh, can join the, our government and they don’t go there so that there was some, some kind of people who, who was, uh, this kind of twins. Yes. But, uh, in general, it’s not the mostly of people of government in our country. There is free country. Yes. And we have a lot of points, a lot of parties in our country. Uh, and that’s, that’s not a problem here. Right. That’s problem among for one, uh, men who now by himself.

Sevan Matossian (07:41):

And who’s that

Yevhenii (07:43):

This is ER, Putin.

Sevan Matossian (07:45):

Oh, right, right.

Yevhenii (07:46):

By the way, the official from our, uh, our, uh, I don’t know, the guys who, uh, talk about the right, right. Uh, sentences, right. Uh, world letters. Yes. They tell that Putin. Now it’s from, uh, little letter Putin, Russia. Uh, we write from little letter. Not, not big letter. Understand. Yes,

Sevan Matossian (08:10):

No,

Yevhenii (08:11):

No. Uh, when, when you write your name yes. You start from the big letter.

Sevan Matossian (08:16):

Oh yes.

Yevhenii (08:18):

At big C yes. Yes. Yes. So in Ukraine we start to write Putin from little, not big.

Sevan Matossian (08:24):

Oh, oh,

Yevhenii (08:25):

This is, this is official now.

Sevan Matossian (08:28):

So, so if, if, if we write Putin’s name, we write it with a lowercase P

Yevhenii (08:32):

Yep. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (08:33):

I like that.

Yevhenii (08:34):

And when you read, when you read news now, uh, in our chat, our social medal there, uh, little Putin here,

Sevan Matossian (08:45):

Um, people ask me all the time, do you know what’s going on over there? Do you know why there’s a war? And I say, no, I have absolutely no idea. Do you know?

Yevhenii (08:54):

Mm, yes. I know. Uh, there, there is, uh, hundreds of year of hating by the Russia government, to the Australian people. That was when, uh, they have Kings. Yes. Then we have the free Kazakh people, maybe, you know? Yes. It’s, uh, uh, horse ride guys with, uh, uh, some weapon and they just love the, uh, just love to be free. Yes. And we, uh, the grandsons of, of, uh, these people and when Ukraine, uh, started go to the, uh, site. Yes. Uh, there was, uh, reason for Putin. Uh, he’s scared that, uh, his people look on us and think, oh, the guys is, uh, can, can be in good, good. Yes. They can have more, uh, more good stuff. He has more freedoms and, and, uh, each other, and he scared that people go on the street until we want also be, have a good economic, yes. Travel more. Yeah. Have more money and, and other stuff. So,

Sevan Matossian (10:21):

Um, let me see if I can follow you so far. Basically the, the Ukrainian, um, society, the civilization that was growing in the Ukraine, Putin was afraid that it was gonna look appealing to the Russian people, that they would look across the border and be like, well, that looks good. And that, that would cause that

Yevhenii (10:42):

Why, why we don’t, uh, be like that. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (10:46):

And then the people would be like, Hey, we want these types of freedoms. We want electricity that runs 24 hours a day. We want to be able to do this. We want be able to have this political party. So he, he was afraid that it would be, and that, that would, that would hurt his ability to hold power of his country.

Yevhenii (11:02):

Yes. It’s. It starts from early, early years of, uh, independence of Ukraine when, uh, Russia government tried to move their guys to our government. Yes. By, by the years he, yes. Which a

Yevhenii (11:20):

Couple of revolutions when put in, uh, by himself, right. To Ukraine. Yes. And, uh, he was with one of our president, uh, victory and it’s, uh, the Iranian president who, uh, who, who have a couple of, uh, criminal, uh, cases now in Ukraine. Yes. And we searched for him here to go on the jail. So, uh, they be the friends and UNKO, uh, want, uh, to go Ukraine, to Putin near, and then people go on the streets, uh, 2014. Yes. Uh, there was a lot of skills, there was, uh, a start put in operation to anate crime. Yes. Uh, start the wire on done by the, uh, east of Ukraine. Yes. Where they, uh, have a couple of cities and now Russia they’re free Republic. Yes. And they come here to protect their, so, oh, this is the point. Yeah. And all the staff move, uh, eight years now and we have a big, uh, problem right there on our windows.

Sevan Matossian (12:44):

So, so let me see. So one, one perspective in both perspectives could be true. I guess one perspective is, is that the Russians don’t are, are threatened by the Ukrainian lifestyle, whatever it is, the political parties, what, whatever they have there. And then, but, but Putin, hi, the narrative that he’s spinning is that there’s these people inside who want to break, who don’t, who wanna break away from Ukraine, and that’s basically who he is going in and, and helping.

Yevhenii (13:10):

Yes.

Sevan Matossian (13:11):

Interesting. Okay. Very, it’s very interest. I, I wonder if they’re explained, I feel like I just can’t see that explained in our, in our media, our medias really focused on, on the fighting now, I guess a journalist was killed. An American journalist was killed there a few hours ago in yeah.

Yevhenii (13:28):

Yeah. I sold this new. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (13:30):

Um, uh, his name is Brent Ranada, I guess he’s a former New York times reporter. I couldn’t for Instagram account, I guess another journalist was killed. Also. It sounds like that they were killed, um, at gunpoint that they were at a checkpoint and someone shot them in the head is, is what it sounds like from the little bit of information I have. It doesn’t sound like that they were hit by a stray bullet or a bomb. Um, and it also sounds like the, um, the Russian military is just outside of Kiev. Now it’s about, uh, nine miles outside of Kiev. And then, and then are you also hearing that they’re attacking right on the Polish border? Also, I, I saw that, that the Russians are now attacking like 12 to 20 miles away from the Polish border. And the media here in the United States is saying that that’s a huge concern because Poland’s a NATO country.

Yevhenii (14:15):

Uh, yeah. Course they, uh, want to provocate other country to go in. So maybe, you know, about the Belarus, uh, there was on, on this week, there was a situation when, uh, Russia from Ukraine attacked Ukraine on the border with Belarus. Yes. And then attacked the, and say that, uh it’s by Ukrainian soldiers. Yeah. So that, so that

Sevan Matossian (14:43):

Actually did happen. They actually did that. That,

Yevhenii (14:45):

Yeah, because all work was ready for this. Yeah. So it’s, it’ll be the strange when you do this and all words know that this is fake and you just like a clown there.

Sevan Matossian (14:59):

What, what about these American? We keep hearing about these American sponsored, um, chemical plants inside. Are those real?

Yevhenii (15:09):

No, this is very interest. Just realize, uh, that, uh, that say Russian propaganda, they Ukraine the country that have biological laboratory to work with viruses. Yes. There are secret projects with American engineering bioengineer. Yes. From Pentagon. Yes. Also we experimenting with COVID yes. And make some ethnic groups, more prone to infection. That’s what they say. So every this crazy stuff, everything we do in Ukraine now, yes. By the way, we also developing nuclear weapons now from, uh, that search of

Sevan Matossian (15:54):

You’re speaking facet, sarcastically. Right. You’re saying that these are all the rumors that are spreading.

Yevhenii (15:59):

Cause it’s very funny. Cause we, uh, uh, write government, uh, country, right? No, not right government, but we have Laos. Yes. And we try to follow this allows, so we don’t have a nuclear weapon from, uh, 1992, I guess. Yes. We don’t have, uh, biological weapons cause we don’t have it. Yes. By the way, before, uh, putting bomb job bombs on Ukraine on, uh, February 24, he says that we are aware are going to attack Russia. And uh, just yesterday Luhan is the, uh, president of bill. Yes. Because there are no people who choose Luhan and Belarus. Uh, he said that if we were not for preventative strikes, just he called these preventive sites from, uh, bill territory. Yes. Ukraine will have a tax bill rules in six hours after that. So, uh, if, if we look on all this stuff, we are very crazy country.

Yevhenii (17:08):

Yes. And why we have such a big problems. We have a lot of, yes. We, we attack Russia attack. Bill may be Poland. We attack yes. Next time. But it’s crazy stuff from the, uh, these old, old people, old mans who, who want to destroy Ukrainian, uh, old, good that we know about Ukraine. You want to tell all words that this is the liar. We just look, we stay near the Russia. Yes. And everything’s gonna be fine before Russia go to our territory and they go to us and start to tell that we do all this crazy stuff. It’s strange, very strange. And of course, people who read these, uh, they must follow to through search of information. Yes. Look on the situation from, uh, any perspective. Yes. And, uh, find the truth. Cause as we start speaking about the too many faiths now yes.

Yevhenii (18:23):

We speak about that. That people, I, I, I go to my, uh, social media and I, uh, read about bumping in a de that I look the window and no bumping in a de, but uh, my moms can read this. She, she’s not AESA now. And, and she’s scared about me. She think that I’m dying there, but I sit here and feel good by the way. And this is, uh, easy example of what do fake information with us. So we read something, we tell each other wrong information and that’s all the machine what’s going on.

Sevan Matossian (19:01):

Yeah. The same, the same media outlets that are telling us that there are, there are media outlets in the United States that are saying that there, um, uh, American bio labs in the Ukraine, several of them that the same. And basically they insinuate or, or maybe they even more than insinuate, they say that they were making chemical weapons. Those were the same. People also told us that last week Odesa was gonna be bombed. We, you know what, another thing that, I don’t know if you’ve heard this yet, but, um, a few hours ago, um, there’s also in the United States now that, um, lemme make sure I get this right here. There are reports that Iran attack the us consulate in Iraq. That is, I really bizarre. That is really, really bizarre,

Yevhenii (19:47):

But this is what fake. Yes,

Sevan Matossian (19:49):

We don’t. We don’t know if it’s fake. You think that’s fake?

Yevhenii (19:52):

I dunno. I read about it in the shelter in the morning and I just I’m in the basement. And now the third world war started here, but I dunno, fake or not, but this is interesting. I heard about, uh, next, if Russia now, uh, start to work with the serial guys, they, uh, want to pay from, uh, 300 to $600 per month, uh, paid by Russia to records from Syria and li for the fate of the war against Ukraine. Yeah. And, uh, there is, uh, our information that people from world want to go to Ukraine, give up here. Yes. And move to Europe. They just want to go from Syria. Cause there Russia climate there. Yes. And also about Iran. Uh, we know that all the world want now to, uh, move away from Russias Russia oil. Yes. So we, without using the, their electricity,

Sevan Matossian (21:09):

Uh, yeah, we that’s

Yevhenii (21:10):

Called oil as oil and the Iran is another country. That’s here oil. Yeah. And it’s very, uh, very useful when you attack Iran. Yes. And you have a reason why to do this, but we don’t know. No.

Sevan Matossian (21:30):

Um, that is that I don’t know. Are you watching what’s hap I don’t know if you see what’s happening in the United States, but that’s another problem that we have in the United States too. Uh, the people really don’t sup our, our gas prices are skyrocketing and there’s, it looks like it’s not, it looks like it’s not gonna stop. And, um, before this president went into power, the one we have in power now, Joe Biden, we had another president before Donald Trump. And it was the first time this country had been energy independent, like in 80 years. And now all of a sudden, um, we, we had the cheapest gas we had had in, you know, forever. And, and now all of a sudden, so that’s another thing too. No one trusts, no one trust our, our trust within our go government said in all time low too. I wonder how that affects the sympathies of Americans for what’s going on in the Ukraine. Has any country come to your aid? Has any country, or, or has any country come to Ukraine’s aid? I mean, like really come to their aid?

Yevhenii (22:27):

Uh, I don’t understand what you say

Sevan Matossian (22:30):

Has any said, Hey, Russia, you better stop or we’re gonna you up.

Yevhenii (22:33):

Oh yeah. It’s a couple of countries like Dru yes, and Syria and uh, some little country who just for the least, and more than 160 countries say that Russia stopped powerless is crazy. And, uh, I read about by the faith that, uh, the, uh, oil oil paid now in, uh, in USA yes. Is the, uh, after sanctions for Russia. Yes. It’s like normal. And he looking for the ways to move from this. Yes. So, uh, it’s the back backside of the medal yet? Uh, because I, I think if some country, uh, work with us yes. To protect us, it’s not only good stuff for of you Russia there, some responsibility, some, uh, I forget this part consequences. Yes,

Sevan Matossian (23:53):

Yes.

Yevhenii (23:54):

Yeah. And this is, this is that we must be, uh, ready for. So, uh, there is, if we close eyes on the war now that can, uh, just, uh, uh, shut down all the earth. Yes. We have a lot of ecological problem. Yeah. And, uh, the, the last years all, uh, smart people, uh, talk about the finish with the oil. Yes. And move to the echo. Echo energetics. Maybe, maybe we must talk about more. We talk about it more now. And we don’t know be we alive on that after, uh, that stuff that happening. Maybe you heard about the Cherno that Russia occupy now know about it. And I have some information that, uh, Chino was captured by Russian military, and it’s completely disconnect from the monitoring system of the international energy agency. So nobody knows that happened now. And the station is their engine energy now. So there is no electricity and, uh, that a stuff that, uh, radiation stuff, uh, that must be, be cold, all that all the time. And when you have no electricity, you can, uh, can move water there. Yes. And, uh, they have the, uh, diesel generators and it, they work by, uh, 48 hours. And then, then maybe we start a new, uh, ecological problem. Not, not we, but, uh, that crazy Russian guys who sit there. I think that it’s a good idea to, uh, go on the ergo, uh, station

Sevan Matossian (26:01):

Before all of this happened. Were you this politically aware, were you up to speed on Ukraine’s politics?

Yevhenii (26:08):

Uh, what,

Sevan Matossian (26:09):

Before this happened, were you, um, this educated and aware of Ukrainian and Russian politics? Or is this no. No,

Yevhenii (26:18):

No. I, uh, talk with you earlier that, uh, the, you don’t interest in politics before the politics go to your home. So I, I leave, I, I want to be free. I know the course of our, so we go in Europe. Yes. We, I, when I start to talk with you, the easy words than use, every time I forget about it. So I go on all the elections yes. In my country. So interest is, but a little bit of all this stuff, but now I am the expert of all the situation you, and, uh, all the people who sit in home are sitting in the shelter and have internet, they all scrolling, uh, phones and, uh, read about the news. So, you know, all the, uh, Russia, bad people on the government, you know, all the, I, I know many of, uh, uh, city mayors of Ukraine now because they, uh, go to the video and say that everything good. And, uh, I don’t know everything good. And some stuff, because all the, all the cities now have, but that a good, yes, we don’t have too much problems now. Only, uh, provocations. Yes. Every day, maybe, uh, catching some SAS almost every day. Yes. And some, some guys who want to, uh, start to, uh, do the mark for the bombs. Yes. So the marks were bombed and land.

Sevan Matossian (28:13):

You do see those people, you do see people marking, Odesa like planes flying over people.

Yevhenii (28:19):

We see many photos of that, of, uh, of how this mark looks like. So of various, there are many, uh, uh, many staffs like that. Yes. So they work with the lighter from the windows, or they, uh, work with the pain, uh, uh, not pain. Uh, so they do this and, uh, the plane see from the, from the plane, you can see this mark and drop the bombs. And I see something like mark and I go with the, our, uh, militaries. And we look on that that not be the, but all the civilians look for this stuff now because it’s, uh, really, uh, the possibility to help our army. Yeah. But if I ask a new questions, no, I know very, uh, little in for about the politic of my country early,

Sevan Matossian (29:33):

Uh, last week when I spoke to you, there were 1.4 million people refugees had left the country. Now we’re at 2.7 million,

Yevhenii (29:42):

2.7 million. Yes. Um, and many countries say that they can’t, uh, more, uh, have Ukrainians in their city because it’s it’s enough.

Sevan Matossian (29:55):

Do you have an ex, do you have a strategy? Do you have a plant? Uh, an, a evacuation.

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