#311 – Neal Maddox

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Bam we’re live. Darn it. I just did two minutes of show on the wrong channel.

Matthew Souza (00:07):

Wait, wait, wait, were you live on a different one?

Sevan Matossian (00:09):

Yeah. Don’t don’t don’t Susan don’t remember we were gonna have Emily roll on and I never, I never, I never, and that broadcast is all set up and so I just, I, Emily, Ralph Neil Maddox. What’s the difference? That’s that’s how open I am, man. Woman black, white other. I don’t give a. I thought Emily Wolf, Neil MADDs were the same person. I thought I thought I thought Neil was just Emily in transition. I got it all up.

Matthew Souza (00:38):

I was nervous. And then when I saw the comments coming in on the side, I was, I, okay. I think I’m on the right one then.

Sevan Matossian (00:43):

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, I randomly open the book and I read to you a, a segment. He was in harmony with the Dow as like a newborn child. Its bones are soft. Its muscles are weak, but its grip is powerful. It doesn’t know about the union of male and female yet. Its penis can stand direct. So intense is its vital power. It can scream its head off all day yet it never becomes horse. So complete is its harmony. The master’s power is like this. He lets things come and go effortless, effortless, effortlessly without desire. He never expects results. Thus, he is disappointed. He has never disappointed us. His spirit never grows old. Booya random pickup from the greatest book in the world. I know that’s gonna upset. Some of you do not let it because if you are offended, then you need to go back to the Jim Henzel podcast.

Sevan Matossian (01:38):

That’s just a random opening of a book called the doubted Ching. A friend of mine gave this to me in, in college. And as you can see, it is my favorite book. And he said in here, he wrote this thing in here that I always read to make sure that I stay in the material world and keep my head huge Seon. This is your book. This book is you. That was an incredible that’s number 55 in the Dow of Chan that’s the Stephen Mitchell translation. You, you want this book, if you do not own this book, this book says absolutely nothing. You must have this book and this book points into the no thing world. Brian Gamble, Heidi Cru what I, Heidi Cru crumb Chrome. Do you do, have you seen that movie? Crumb, C R U M B about the, uh, San Francisco comic. If you have not seen Cru uh, you have to see that movie. It’s a documentary. Victor brown, Victor brown, miss sucky, my plums. Wow. Yes, please.

Sevan Matossian (02:43):

Miss sucky. My plums. You must be popular in the club. We got pneumatics coming in. He is um, uh, at the gym, still getting his swollen on. He told us he’d be a few minutes late. I told him it’s fine. Seven, 10 would be great. Eric. Good morning. Uh, I thought of an, an example today. Um, they, they would explain to people why so many people around them are dumb. Some of you will get this. Some of you will not. If you don’t get this, that is because you are on the dumb side of judgment. You just are dumb. Um, but, but there’s hope that the good thing is, is that there’s hope. And in, in dumbness there’s a lot of happiness. So here we go. If I point to someone who’s running out of a, if I point to someone who’s running out of a store and, and, and let’s say they stole something and I say, and the cop goes, what did he look like?

Sevan Matossian (03:32):

And I said, he was a black guy. The color of his skin has nothing to do with the fact that he stealing from the store zero. And when you make that connection, that’s normal. Just like you would make the connection. If you saw a snake with a big mandible, that Leah, he has venomous, um, uh, fangs in there, you know, you start building up some sort of identity and discrimination and prejudice. Just like you stay away from fast cars, right? Instead of slow cars, because it, you, you, you start to build of the discrimination and prejudice against them, nothing wrong with that. Those aren’t bad words, but there’s no truth to it. There’s no absolute truth to it. If you saw a black guy running outta a store and you thought that, and I told the cop that the guy was black and you thought the color skin had anything to do with the fact that he was taking something from the store zero. But if I pointed at someone and, and a group of people, I said, that guy had that guy has two diabetes. And Susan said who? And I said the fat guy at that point, when I say the fat guy, I’m not only describing him, but I’m telling you yes.

Sevan Matossian (04:32):

And you have to be smart enough to know the difference. Yes, that fat is indicative of having type two diabetes stealing in black skin, not related helping people in black skin, not related. Now, if I said you, if there were a bunch of guys, if I’m sitting in a room and I said, which guy has someone said, which guy has cancer? And I said, the black guy, then his skin might, he has skin cancer. Then it might have something. Or if I said something about how his skin reacts to the sun, then, then that characteristic is related. And that’s where the confusion is because, because we were wanna dumb everything down because we don’t think people can figure that out in society. There’s this, uh, um, subway in the bay area, the bay area, San Francisco, Oakland, that whole area surrounding that body of water in California called the bay area.

Sevan Matossian (05:15):

And there’s a, that we have a subway here, a horrible one, completely impractical pile of called, um, Bart bay area, rapid transit it. Yeah. And they don’t wanna release their camera footage of all the crime because they think it will support racism. Now think about that. How dumb are those people that they have it confused. I’m gonna make the assumption or presupposition that all the people stealing on those camera videos or blah black people. And because of that, they don’t wanna show it because then they think people will make the connection that it’s black people committing all the crime. It’s it’s it’s, we can’t stop that. We can’t help that.

Sevan Matossian (05:59):

But if you’re in that group and you think skin color is indicative, as opposed to just a description, then, then you’re retard. You are the racist. Those are the racist, the stop, Asian hate people, racist. They, they support it as its essence under the guy of trying to be kind. But it, but it just feeds. It it’s like the person I swear to you, man. It’s it’s like the old lady who feeds the rats and your neighborhood’s full of rats. Cuz she, every night at midnight, she goes out and lays down a 20 pound bag of dog food. But, but she’s being, but, but she’s being told that, um, she is a humanitarian and environmentalist, by the way, you guys must be ecstatic who voted for Biden and John Carey. Did you see John? Carey’s really concerned about the, what the war is gonna do to global warming.

Matthew Souza (06:50):

That’s crazy. It’s absolutely insane.

Sevan Matossian (06:54):

I bet you not one person, you know, who believes in global warming could explain the scientific merit behind it. You know, it can’t be reversed engineer or do you know that’s the main problem, right? You can’t take the theory of global warming that they have and, and, and go backwards in time and be like, yes, there should have been a hurricane here. Yes. There should have been this issue here. Yes. The glacier should have been like this here. That’s the problem with the theory. If it was valid, it would work in both, both directions predicting the future and going backwards, predicting the back. Hey.

Matthew Souza (07:22):


Sevan Matossian (07:22):

And it does not work like that. I can tell you, I can give you a theory of when there was traffic every day for the last thousand days. Um, in, in Santa Cruz, California, I have a theory for that. I can tell you the time the dates that there wouldn’t be. Yeah. The global warming theory cannot does not work like that.

Matthew Souza (07:44):

Well, most of those political things are just up and to sound good. So then that way you support ’em and then really it’s just them siphoning more money, more bureaucrats, more administrators. So they could just pay and continue to grow the government as is not actually fix or change

Sevan Matossian (07:57):

Anything. And then, and then you feel guilty and then you feel guilty for not believing it. And you don’t wanna stand up because they try to intimidate you and say that you’re stupid or something like that must be freezing in Neo Mads, gym. What’s up

Neal Maddox (08:08):


Sevan Matossian (08:09):

That’s the only reason why he did what’s

Neal Maddox (08:10):

Up Neil?

Sevan Matossian (08:10):

What’s up? Neil. You your masks in your gym, buddy.

Neal Maddox (08:13):

What’s up?

Sevan Matossian (08:14):

I was just making fun of your mask.

Neal Maddox (08:16):

Hey man. Hey, I’m right across the street from the hospital. So when you’re right across the street from the hospital, you gotta follow the rules or sheriff shows up to your, uh, facility,

Sevan Matossian (08:25):

Neil, uh, Neil MADDs, uh, has a gym in the hive of, uh, psycho insanity. It’s about 50 to 60 miles. I don’t even know if you’re that far north of me. You’re 20 miles north of me. Right, right.

Neal Maddox (08:37):


Sevan Matossian (08:37):

Yeah. I also live in the hive of insanity. It’s crazy. Look, Jim looks good, buddy.

Neal Maddox (08:44):

Oh, thanks man.

Sevan Matossian (08:46):

11 Reebok. Look,

Neal Maddox (08:47):

I, I still have all the old school where, when, when it was good.

Matthew Souza (08:51):

Oh, that’s

Sevan Matossian (08:52):

Nice. Neil, do you know Matt Suza? He owns CrossFit.

Neal Maddox (08:56):

Oh, how doing, how you doing bud?

Matthew Souza (08:57):

I’m doing great, man. Great to meet you.

Neal Maddox (08:59):

Yeah. So we just got done doing a little bit of an open workout here. And so, uh, that’s why I was running a little bit behind this morning.

Sevan Matossian (09:08):

Uh, well, thanks for coming on. Appreciate it. Good to see you get, and what’s the temp in there. I know you look like, uh you’re. Oh yeah.

Neal Maddox (09:18):

It’s cold, man. It’s pretty cold right now. So we’re, we’re out here grinding.

Sevan Matossian (09:23):

We were just talking about predictive, uh, things that you could, um, predict. What, tell me about how temperature affects, uh, people showing up to that. That’s that’s your six o’clock class. 6:00 AM class. Yeah.

Neal Maddox (09:33):

You know, I mean, uh, I mean in the morning, so if it’s summertime, it’s a little bit different, but right now, I mean it affects people. The colder, it is the less people show up the warmer. It is more people show up. So, you know, right now, you know, it’s a pretty cold day, but you had a good turnout. 12,

Sevan Matossian (09:49):

Do you have, um, I go to that skate park in Sunnyvale once a week and it, the people there look totally different than the PE like the skate park by my house. It’s, it’s, it’s mostly boys between the age of seven and 25. Uh, uh, and, and, and when I go to the skate park in Sunnyvale, it’s mostly, um, it’s, it’s a combination, but everyone’s older. There’s like 40 year old Asian women there. There’s like, like they’re, they’re all just rich, um, uh, Silicon valley types. Who, who, you know what I mean? They’re all investors and like that. It’s a great, it’s like really rich, smart people. Like if like some, if I talk to someone there I’m like, Hey, what do you do? They’re like, I’m an engineer at Facebook. I, I, I discovered a new skateboard. Do you wanna see the bearing on, I mean, just everyone’s like, is it like that in your gym too? It’s just overachiever smart.

Neal Maddox (10:42):

Uh, we, you know what, I have a pretty good blend of a little bit of everything, uh, from your, um, NFL athlete on down to your typical 72 year old, uh, old mother pop, you know, so it, I have a good mix of everything. Uh, as you were talking about with that skate park, it just reminded me back in the day in San Jose, we used to have this awesome, um, warehouse. That was a, it was basically Tony Hawk, all the best used to come down here. It was 10th street. It was a 10th street warehouse. They had big humongous, humongous, 20 foot, half pipes. I mean, you had Steve Caballero, you had everybody. So as a kid, wow. I was a skater. So as a kid, I’d just go down there, go to the skate park and you’d just watch all these icons skating. But then of course, once I got into football, I got rid of skateboarding, got rid of all that stuff and solely focused on, uh, on that

Sevan Matossian (11:31):

You got, you got an active guy in the NFL, in your gym.

Neal Maddox (11:35):

Uh, so yeah, so the guys, uh, who I’ve worked with, uh, in, through this past season, I was, uh, helping, uh, Kevin Gibbons with the Niners rehab. Uh, Kiko. Alonzo is one of my other guys that I worked with Darnell Sanky Steve, but, uh, sorry, Shane Smith and so on. So,

Sevan Matossian (11:51):

Um, that’s awesome. I I’ll tell you a story. I, I never, I never have told anyone the first time. I don’t, I don’t even think my wife knows. Ah, she probably know knows, cuz I probably cried in my hotel room that night. Um, it was, I don’t remember what games it was, but I started filming the behind the scenes a day earlier than I was than I normally do. And the first and, and, and is the day or two before the event started. And I was like, so proud of myself, I got to Carson early. And um, one of the things I filmed is at nighttime, all of you guys went down to test the water for the swim. This was even before the game started. Yep. And there was this amazing lecture that lifeguards gave like basically telling you guys, Hey, there’s sharks out there at all times. And I was staying very close to you at that point. And then everyone, I went out for the swim and you got MAED by a jellyfish.

Neal Maddox (12:43):

No, I, it was a stingray. I got stung by stingray.

Sevan Matossian (12:46):

Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. And you

Neal Maddox (12:47):

Were what happened. Yeah. So we’re out there.

Sevan Matossian (12:50):

All that. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Neal Maddox (12:52):

So, so what happened as we went out there, we’re getting, uh, you know, briefed on everything, what was going on and they said shuffle your feet when you’re out there because there are stingrays. Believe it or not, most of the stingrays hang out more so towards PI versus out in the open area because there’s that shade and all that stuff. And so I we’re pretty close to the pier. So I went walking out and literally, I mean, I was maybe, maybe ankle, not even little over ankle deep. And I, all I felt was something just like a big shock through my whole body. Like what the hell I picked my foot up. I had something in my foot. So I, it, it was like, I don’t even know what the hell it looked like a, I don’t know, a thorn or something. I don’t know what the hell and I pulled it out.

Neal Maddox (13:30):

And then I started bleeding and my leg just started burning. And I was like, what hell was going on? And so right after that, the lifeguards took me in. And when they took me in, they, uh, gave me some treatment. So whenever you get stung with a stingray, you just gotta let it. Basically, you gotta Rin hot water on it. You gotta just like put hot water or stick your, uh, foot in a hot tub. And so right when we’re doing that, everyone else is doing their practice and all that. I’m sitting there for the, so for in the next six to seven hours, I’m at the hospital. I, they take me to the hospital. I’m going to the hospital. I, my leg is burning because I got poison in my leg and all that stuff. They gimme a bunch of shots. So right when I go into those games, I’m not even a 100%. I’m like, what the hell man? My right leg, my right leg is just not working. And as you guys know, my games ended early. I ended up tearing on that same side. I ended up messing up my right ad doctor on the same side where I got to stingray, where I got stung by a stingray. But, but my leg was not normal. I mean, it wasn’t normal for three to four weeks after that,

Sevan Matossian (14:29):

Uh, uh, this guy, this guy brought up a good question. Uh, you don’t pee on it. I didn’t tell you to pee on it.

Neal Maddox (14:34):

So, so the reason is, so if you pee on it is because if you don’t have access to hot water and when your pee, when your pee is hot. So when you pee, you know, that’s why you’ll pee on it. But typically you don’t pee on it. If you have access to hot water.

Sevan Matossian (14:47):

And then, and then, and then Eric, um, a lot of people don’t know this. Neil probably doesn’t know this either, but after you pee on it, because you don’t have hot water. If you still don’t have something hot, you just put a warm vagina on it. You just have your girlfriend straddle your leg and, and I will keep it. Uh, so I film all of this. I film all of this. It’s great. I’m like, like, yeah, like, you know, like I’m like pretending to feel bad for Neil. Oh, I’m so sorry, Neil. But really I’m like, yeah. Yeah, this is gonna be great. Behind the scenes caught down. I’m excited. I get home. There’s no audio like a idiot that night in my hotel room. I’m looking at the footage and that’s why that never made the behind the scenes that whole day.

Sevan Matossian (15:25):

I worked my off. I filmed for like 12 hours and I never had the mic plugged in and audio. I, I wanted to kill myself. I, I, I was, it was, it’s like the worst thing that can happen to you as a camera guy, it’s happened to me twice. I, I did it behind the scenes with Christian clever at her house once. And that happened that’s it’s happened to me twice in my career. It’s horrible. Like, like literally, like I got the, you get the sweats, you know what I mean? Like you hate yourself. It’s a nightmare.

Neal Maddox (15:52):

Yeah. That, that would suck. That would suck big time, man.

Sevan Matossian (15:55):

Oh, man. That was so bad. And then, and then of course you guys see that Dave Castro has been consistent and not caring about the athletes. Um, he put Matics in a very dangerous situation. Clearly what they should have done is they should have been safety first and they should have just put each individual athlete in their own bathtub and just had red water for There. There’s a great, there’s a great comment. Somewhere on YouTube or someone, some guy says they need to put athlete safety first. And someone goes, you idiot. This like that. If that was the first thing you put first, everyone would just stay home. That cannot be the first thing you put first athletes safe first it’s it’s so it’s so like what you’re supposed to say. Right. It’s just, but it’s just not real.

Neal Maddox (16:39):

Yeah. So, so what’s a, what’s a funny story is that, you know, for as many times I went out in Santa Cruz and just swam out. I literally would swim right by the boardwalk and would swam out to those buoys and around those buoys, not once did I ever get hit attacked by or get stung by a stingray jellyfish? Not once, but then I go down south and what are the odds? They said one in a million. And guess what? I should have played the lottery that day.

Sevan Matossian (17:04):

Yeah. Crazy. Is that the same thing that killed Steve Irwin?

Neal Maddox (17:08):

Yep. He got hit in the chest.

Sevan Matossian (17:10):


Neal Maddox (17:11):

But he got hit by a bigger one. I, the one that I got it was it, it had to be small. I, I didn’t see it. So

Sevan Matossian (17:18):

Neil was this long. The one that got Steve Orwin was this.

Neal Maddox (17:22):

It was long, man. All I know is it was small, but I mean, that thing packed a punch man, but they said the smaller ones are Del with the, like the venom they released. But luckily I got everything thrown out real quick.

Sevan Matossian (17:33):

Look at this. Haven’t made a buck in a long time. Sunil.

Neal Maddox (17:37):

Oh, there’s Neil there’s. There’s my guy right there. One of my, one of my guys right there. What’s up

Sevan Matossian (17:41):

That guy. Trains at your joint. Yep. Oh, that’s awesome. Thank you, Sunil. Hey, um, you were doing the open this morning.

Neal Maddox (17:50):

Uh, yeah, so my gym members were doing the open. I’m not doing the open, but my gym members were doing the open this morning.

Sevan Matossian (17:56):

And, and, and why don’t you do it? You don’t want anyone to see that you’re 50% of the man. You used to be

Neal Maddox (18:01):

Exactly. Exactly. You nailed it. You nailed it. You know, believe or not honestly, you know what I mean? From all the years of competing and stuff, I just killed my adrenal glands man. And so I just don’t go there anymore. I just, I mean, I did, I I’ve competed my whole life. And so now it’s just, I just want to enjoy my workouts and not have to just go through the death of the workouts because I can’t just attack a workout, like a normal person. I have, I attack it with a games mentality and my mentality is go out there and win that. So it’s like, I just gotta back off. And so now when I train, I just, I, you know, I train mostly by myself now because I just don’t want to. I just, I don’t wanna be in that competitive mode anymore. I want to focus on my family and really focus on my son. That’s where I all my time and energy is on right now.

Sevan Matossian (18:53):

Uh, how old’s your son?

Neal Maddox (18:54):

He, uh, just, uh, matter of fact, he turns, uh, oh, guess what? Eight months today.

Sevan Matossian (19:01):

You’re in love. Look, it’s you. Oh man.

Neal Maddox (19:04):

Me, him. I wanna we’re. We’re both in love with him, man. He’s uh, I I’m just so blessed to have a boy. I never thought that I’d have a boy. I do have a daughter, you know, she’s a lot older and stuff, but I’m just so blessed to have a boy. I mean, having a kid, you

Sevan Matossian (19:17):

Have a beautiful daughter, by the way, we went out to dinner the other night and I saw her picture. Holy

Neal Maddox (19:21):

Cow. I mean, when you, when you’re younger and when you’re younger and you have a kid it’s a little bit different versus when you’re older and you have a kid, um, you know, being in my forties, it’s just, it’s different. You know, when I was younger, I loved growing with my daughter, but it was like, I was growing up with my daughter. So we were growing together. Now it’s like, I have all this wisdom and knowledge that I’ve gotten over the years. Now I have this information that I can really truly pass to my son and not just grow with him. I can actually raise, uh, you know, and I don’t think I did a bad job with my daughter because she graduated from college, did everything else, but it’s just a approach. Thank you. It’s just a different approach. And it’s just different. The cool thing is I love watching your videos because when I watch your videos of the, of your kids and all that stuff, it gives me so much motivation and so much drive of what I want to do with my son and how much time I wanna spend and share with him.

Sevan Matossian (20:13):

I, I encourage you to, it’s a different, how your daughter’s 25. You said,

Neal Maddox (20:17):

Uh, yeah,

Sevan Matossian (20:17):

It’s a different landscape. Now. I encourage you to consider just raising your son, like the way a lion raises. Well, I dunno if lions do this, but just right next to you in the gym, let him learn his math by counting reps, let him learn his, this business acumen and, uh, by, um, helping you make journeys to the bank. I seriously mean that outside of maybe doing on 10 or 15 minutes of, of structured math and reading every single day from the age of three. Yep. I like, I, I, I don’t think, especially in the bay area, the school is the way to go anymore. I, I, I know it sound like a complete whackadoodle. I, if someone would’ve told me that before I had kids, but now I’m intimate with the school and I’m like, man, like someone like you, what he could learn from you and those clients in that gym, if he was raised in there,

Neal Maddox (21:03):

Dude’s Funny, it’s

Sevan Matossian (21:04):

Funny that the smartest people, he’s never gonna meet three NFL players at school,

Neal Maddox (21:09):


Sevan Matossian (21:09):

That in

Neal Maddox (21:10):

What’s funny is what you’re saying right now, because that’s, that’s a model that me and my wife are taking, you know, we aren’t, we aren’t putting him in daycare. He’s getting raised by us. We don’t want someone else to raise our child. Yeah. But the, the biggest thing is, is just having him around. Like my wife will put him, plop him right in front of her while she’s him out. When I’m working out, she’ll bring him in so he can see me work out. And like right now he’s calling around everywhere. So that’s like his little workout right now. But, um, the biggest thing is, is just having him get this exposure because I work with a lot of kids. I work with high school kids who, who come to my facility. And the biggest thing that I notice with schools now is all the kids keep telling me mental health, mental health.

Neal Maddox (21:47):

And I’m like, okay, what does that tell me what mental health means? Because, oh, good. I understand. I understand. If you are bipolar, you have, and I’m not pleased. Nobody whoever’s listened to this. I’m not saying there’s no mental health issues or anything there is. But what I’m saying is that when I talk to some of my kids, because a teacher like, say for instance, if a teacher said, Hey, you have to do, uh, your homework. They will claim mental health because they got tasked with doing homework and it’s too much. They wanna be able to go, uh, hang out with their friends versus doing homework. Whereas if someone has a real serious problem where they’re having massive depression or something where they want to commit suicide, I mean, that’s gonna be more of a serious mental health issue then, Hey, uh, these kids are like, I’m literally hearing, hearing from these kids.

Neal Maddox (22:34):

They’ll just throw that out there so they can go home and not have to go to school. They’ll make things up and claim mental health or something like that just to, uh, go home. But here’s a big thing. I don’t know if you guys heard this, but Tom IZO Michigan state coach, he was just talking. Jwan Howard, uh, from, uh, Wisconsin, uh, uh, from Michigan was facing off against Wisconsin. He punched one of the assistant coaches. This is a head coach punching an assistant coach that I do not, I do not agree with at all, but what Tom IZO said, because NCAA and them were thinking about getting rid of the, uh, handshake after the game, Tom IZO said,

Matthew Souza (23:12):

Yeah, right

Neal Maddox (23:14):

Here, here, this hear this real quick. This is how much softer society he has gotten over the years beforehand. If you got your kicked, you had to be man enough to go down there and shake that man’s hand and acknowledge that they kicked your. Because what, when you lose, when you learn, when you, you eventually develop the aspects, if you have the right coach to teach you how to win, because you’ve gotta experience a loss to have that drive to wanna win. But then they’re trying to get rid of that handshake. But what Tom IZO said is look, man, we already, we already, if kids are not having a bad day, they’re they get to go home. I mean, we’re, we’re already making society softer for kids. Now, you don’t want a kid to go out and shake someone’s hand after they get their head butt or their butt kid. That what is happening with society. He’s all, that’s not going to happen here. We will continue to do the handshake because you gotta give respect to the people who whooped your butt. Because not only that it’s just sportsmanship.

Sevan Matossian (24:07):

So the assistant coach told the head coach, Hey, we’re not gonna have them shake their hands. No, no. And the head coach punched him in the face and the assistant coach in the face,

Neal Maddox (24:14):

Juan Howard Jowan Howard, uh, in the Wisconsin coach were walking this way. Oh, When they’re walking in the handshake, uh, Jowan Howard was upset because of Wisconsin called the time out. It seemed like they’re running up the score.

Sevan Matossian (24:28):

Oh, opposing coaches punched each other. Yes.

Neal Maddox (24:30):

And by running up the score, he kind of got off. And so he punched them. He got disciplined and got suspended for the remaining games, uh, for the remaining season. But, but the whole purpose of Tom IZO from the other, for Michigan state, not Michigan, he was just commenting saying that really? We’re gonna start getting rid of this. I mean, we’re already taking away all this stuff to teach our kids how to be strong, mentally strong. What are we doing? Just making our society weaker.

Sevan Matossian (24:53):

Yeah. Hey, was that, so I made the assumption that it was AVO to the handshake for being taken out to avoid spread of disease. Um, but you’re saying it’s to avoid conflict.

Neal Maddox (25:03):

Yep. I have this, uh, oh, look right here.

Sevan Matossian (25:06):

This it,

Neal Maddox (25:09):

So this should be the Wisconsin. No, wait, wait,

Sevan Matossian (25:13):

Is who is that? Are, are those guys all on the same team right there? No,

Neal Maddox (25:16):

It’s no, it’s uh, no, not 10. Uh, so look at Michigan brawl. Uh, no, no, no. Go back up to the top. Go put Jowan Howard put Jowan Howard Michigan coach, uh, punch. And then I have this good video clip that I, I wanna play for you because this is what’s happening, um, with society today. And I wanna really share this with you.

Sevan Matossian (25:37):

Are you an affiliate still?

Neal Maddox (25:39):

Uh, as of now, no,

Sevan Matossian (25:41):

But how then, how do you do the open at your gym? Do, how do they submit their scores?

Neal Maddox (25:45):

So, so if you saw in the open, uh, all you have to do is have certified judges and judges can certify I, uh, so if your people are

Sevan Matossian (25:53):

Certified. Oh, that’s cool. Okay, cool.

Neal Maddox (25:55):

Certify. So it’s like, so my whole question was why be a, why be affiliate? If I have judges who can certify the other person, because besides that, what else? I’m not trying to knock, but what else is, uh,

Sevan Matossian (26:08):

Hey dude,

Neal Maddox (26:09):

What else am I getting from CrossFit?

Sevan Matossian (26:11):

Hey dude. You’re. Yeah.

Neal Maddox (26:14):

And I’m not, I love CrossFit. I love, I love what

Sevan Matossian (26:18):

You don’t appreciate them. You don’t appreciate them firing your homeboy.

Neal Maddox (26:21):

No, no. What I love is I love the methodology of CrossFit that I do for my life and for my

Sevan Matossian (26:28):

Right, right. Me too. Me too. Hey, listen, listen. I saw an L one certificate yesterday. Yep. And they have Eric Rosa signed those now because he’s the CEO. So you get your L one and the signature on the L one. I, I don’t wanna turn this into a hating session. I know you’re a good dude, but that, that shows no character. You are coward. You’re signing your name on the L one with the methodology that Greg Glassman put together. How about off? How about it’s nuts? They’re they’re uh, I’ve always been a huge support of L one. I’ve told every single person from day one, if you, it is the single best two days of your life, you have to take it. When I see stuff like that, I’m just like, just go get the journal and read it. Go, go find an L one trait, go to Neil’s gym and have him walk you through it. Were you ever on the L one team? Neil?

Neal Maddox (27:14):

I was, uh, I was a red shirt. Uh, I was a red shirt, uh, from, uh, 2010. Late, no, sorry. Yeah. Two late, 2010 all away until about 2014.

Sevan Matossian (27:25):

Did you like it?

Neal Maddox (27:26):

I loved, I loved being a red shirt. I loved everything that, so I’m an old school CRO. Uh, I don’t know if I’m an OG CrossFitter if they consider me that or what, but I’m old school. So when I’m in old school, 2008, or sorry, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012. All the way up to about this, this, you know, this past year is just the, the whole, how can I say it? I remember back in the day from 2010 to about 2016, I’d get a ton of people would come into the gym. I want to go to the CrossFit. Like it was on a daily basis, constantly people loving CrossFit. When CrossFit was at the StubHub center, it was just a different vibe in California at it completely. Once it moved to Wisconsin, it kind of lost its flavor a little bit. And I’m not saying Wisconsin bad, but Wisconsin LA just, you can’t compare the two, the StubHub center. You felt like you’re in that event. When I was at Wisconsin, I mean, the, it was nice and stuff. It just wasn’t, it didn’t have that sports made a feel. That’s why, if you ever look at, you know, teams that are in big markets versus small markets, it’s the same

Sevan Matossian (28:35):

Thing. Ah, you

Neal Maddox (28:37):

Know, when you’re in a big market, you draw more attention when you’re on ESPN, the worldwide sports provider. Guess what? The number one network, not CBS sports. It’s, it’s completely different. I mean, when it was on ESPN, everyone saw it, CBS sports. I don’t even know when the games are coming on.

Sevan Matossian (28:53):

It’s it’s funny you say that I was in, uh, oh, I wanna say one thing to this guy real quick. Hey dude, don’t don’t let me ruin the L one’s amazing.

Neal Maddox (29:01):

L one is off the hook.

Sevan Matossian (29:02):

It’s off the hook. I’m so sorry. I, I, I sear what Nicole Carroll and, and Greg built over there insane that the people who run it insane, I don’t mean ever to on it at all. It’s just a joke that he signs this shirt, but you’re gonna have a blast. And the European, uh, L one trainers, the red shirts are incredible. They they’re, they, they are basically all that’s left of CrossFit in my opinion. And, and so you’re in good hands. Yeah.

Neal Maddox (29:24): So there’s still a lot of OGs on the staff stuff. So the biggest thing that I’ll say coming from another field and getting numerous certifications from national strength and conditioning association to NASM and all that. And then I had all that prior to CrossFit. Once I got to CrossFit, I was like, all this stuff. I pushed it aside. And I stuck with the CrossFit methodology because one, I got fitter than I’ve ever gotten before I got stronger in a later age than I’ve ever gotten before. And just like everything in my life got better. And not only that I’m in my forties and I’m younger than I’ve ever been in, in my life, meaning that my joints are healthy. My body’s healthy.

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