#1034 – Travis Mayer & Devyn Kim | Only Getting Better

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Bam. We’re live. That’s close. Oh, did I miss it? Oh, I hear a hum. What the fuck is that? Oh, there we go. Oh, that’s interesting. What’s up, dude? Morning. I was running some testing here yesterday. I did a podcast with Avi. Oh yeah. Just like not a live one. Trying to get this thing ready. Dave’s coming in tonight. I think it’s our, I mean, Susie’s been in here for a test run, but I don’t think I’ve done a live show with a guest in here. I actually thought, I actually thought Don Fall was going to be my first guest, but it looks like it’s going to be. Dave, I’m going to send you the notes for Travis and did I send the wrong, now I’m paranoid. I sent them the wrong link Maybe. Maybe I’ll resend it. It’s Travis Mayer first, right? I think so, yeah. And then Devin Kim, right? Yeah. I’ll resend it. Because yesterday, didn’t I send the wrong link to someone and they came like 12 minutes late? Yeah, which is my fault. Alexis rap this? Yeah. Yeah. Alexis rap. This? Yeah, her. Okay. And then I’m sending you the show notes. Here we go. Caleb. Oh, there he is. Him. I see him cruising in. Matt Souza. Travis and Devon show. Travis and Devon. September 20, 23, two-stroke. You got a mid stroke.

Travis Mayer (02:01):

That’s right, baby. How are we doing, man?

Sevan Matossian (02:03):

Dude, at 6 58, I was buck naked. Usually if I look at the clock and it’s like in the fifties and I’m naked, I’m like, fuck. I better hurry up. But 6 58, I’m so glad you were a little tardy yourself.

Travis Mayer (02:16):

I was just finished up.

Sevan Matossian (02:17):

Yeah. Nice. Very nice. How

Travis Mayer (02:19):

To see you, dude? Looking nice and gray as usual.

Sevan Matossian (02:22):

Really? Where?

Travis Mayer (02:24):


Sevan Matossian (02:24):

Oh, this? Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that new for you?

Travis Mayer (02:29):

No, I just don’t usually let it grow out this long, so I feel like it’s exposed more, man. It really is. Wow.

Sevan Matossian (02:35):

I really like your, I’m digging your look.

Travis Mayer (02:40):

Thanks, man.

Sevan Matossian (02:41):

Yeah, you’re looking good. You almost look rebranded. It’s been so long since I’ve seen you. You rebranded yourself.

Travis Mayer (02:46):

What do you mean? I saw you at the games.

Sevan Matossian (02:49):

Oh yeah, that’s true. That’s true.

Travis Mayer (02:51):

You were just too busy, too busy at the games.

Sevan Matossian (02:54):

What did you think about the games being there? Not about the games, the games in general, but what did Travis Mayer think about being at the games and not participating but being there?

Travis Mayer (03:04):

Yeah, definitely not much of a fan of a spectator.

Sevan Matossian (03:07):

Have you ever done that before? Is that the first time you’ve ever been there as a spectator?

Travis Mayer (03:10):

Through Spectator? Yeah. That was the first time I’ve ever,

Sevan Matossian (03:13):

God, it sucks to be You

Travis Mayer (03:14):

Watched. Yeah. I mean, I think it was good in hindsight of getting a different perspective of how you view the pressure and expectation of different things. Where as the outsider’s looking in, I don’t feel like I felt that as much just from sitting there, but watching the athletes, you can see what’s happening and unfolding, and I think from that standpoint, it gave me a different perspective. But other than that, yeah, it was cool to interact with a lot of people, but I’d much rather be on the competition floor.

Sevan Matossian (03:48):

Being there without a job is a skill in itself that I think if you’re there with a job, it’s hard to make the shift. I’m not saying it’s bad to go there without a job, but it would be weird for me to be there without a camera, just like I’m sure it was weird for you to be there and not have to perform.

Travis Mayer (04:06):

Have you been without a camera?

Sevan Matossian (04:08):

Yeah, but I didn’t go the years that they told me. Well, I mean, I was in Madison, but I just pouted at the Airbnb.

Travis Mayer (04:18):

Oh, was that the year that Glassman was there and you were the Coke stuff or whatever was it?

Sevan Matossian (04:25):

It was just basically when they fired the media team. I actually went there in 2018 or 19, whatever, what was my last year thinking I was going to film the behind the scenes, and I got there and him and the current c e O were like, no, you’re not doing it. That broke my heart, dude. That’s like going to the prom in your dates with another dude. It was like that.

Travis Mayer (04:46):

Yeah, because you did it this year. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (04:51):

Killed it, dude.

Travis Mayer (04:52):

When do you get to publish that? When does that come out?

Sevan Matossian (04:55):

The first three episodes are done and we were reviewing them and basically we decided that the first three episodes really need to be six episodes over an hour each. But they’re so awesome, dude. But

Travis Mayer (05:05):

I, that’s what I mean. Back in the day, that’s what they used to be. People love it.

Sevan Matossian (05:08):

They will. They will. They’ll still be long, but they’re just too long.

Travis Mayer (05:12):


Sevan Matossian (05:13):

They’re just too long. And if I charge a quarter each to watch them like 25 cents each and I have 30 of the episodes, I could be a millionaire.

Travis Mayer (05:22):

Oh, so you’re expected to get a lot of views.

Sevan Matossian (05:29):

I see it already. I see it already. When you say you got a different perspective, what do you think? That perspective,

Travis Mayer (05:38):

I feel like pressure and things you put on yourself as an athlete, I think you have to do that in order to perform and show up and be ready. But I also think sometimes it’s too much, at least for me personally, and you kind of think on the moment in the floor, people almost just watching you, but then as you’re up there and spectating, that’s not the case. Everybody’s watching everything. No one’s thinking of that one person that failed the muscle up or whatever. It’s just like, okay. Then you just keep scanning the whole floor of watching. You have the people you want to watch and who they’re showcasing. But I think if you’re not that one or two place person that’s on the screen and who they’re actually probably watching, the pressure is just more like, Hey, you need to just execute to the best of your ability and show up on that. And regardless if you start to mess up or something, it’s not like you’re less of a person or not as good as what you’re capable of because people are all seeing that. But in reality, no one’s really watching it. But it’s just this logic that you’re thinking about internally and adding more stress to yourself

Sevan Matossian (06:49):

And you got a new perspective since you weren’t competing.

Travis Mayer (06:55):


Sevan Matossian (06:55):

That perspective came. Yeah, I am trying to remember which athlete I was just talking about that with. Yeah, the fans are happy for you if you finish or you don’t finish or you take first or you take six, they’re pumped. But I do see, yeah, it’s a totally different perspective than the pressure the athletes are putting on themselves

Travis Mayer (07:13):

For sure.

Sevan Matossian (07:15):

Do you think it’s bad if you lose that? Maybe it’s better to just be like, oh my God, everyone’s staring at me. I fucked up, or I did great.

Travis Mayer (07:22):

I mean, I think in certain cases it can be right. If it pays off and you do well, then I feel like great, it’s building confidence. But at the other side of that, I feel like it could be detrimental and then you think you’re worthless and not doing well on the other side of that. So I think it kind of go both ways.

Sevan Matossian (07:39):

Do you enjoy the games when you compete?

Travis Mayer (07:43):

Oh, some years. Yeah.


Some years I’ve been there and I’m burned out. I’m tired. I don’t want to be here. That’s happened. But then other years, I feel like there’s the highs and lows throughout any competition that on the lows you’re like, this is not enjoyable right now and I’m not having fun. And then on the other side of things, when you have a good workout or things are kind of going in your favor, it’s much easier, of course to be present and excited about competing and pushing for a better place and work to climb the leaderboard or whatever it may be. But yeah, I feel like every year has been different feelings, different experiences, emotions, kind of all those things.

Sevan Matossian (08:26):

When you get married and it’s like the best night of your life or as you’re building up to the marriage, you’re not like, Ooh, there’s going to be a couple in three years. There’s going to be a tough year coming. Oh, there’s going to be this one year when we want to get divorced. The whole, you’re not even thinking that, right? You’re like, fuck, this is great. I can’t wait to get a house and a car and some kids and fuck love of my life and holy shit, I’m going on the honeymoon and wow, I get to sleep naked in bed with this girl every night for the rest of my life. You’re not even like, but the games, is it guaranteed? Is it like a relationship? Is it guaranteed? There’s going to be this moment During the games

Travis Mayer (09:02):

I felt like this, or last year, I felt mentally physically prepared the most. And then the first event had this,

Sevan Matossian (09:10):

You’re not just saying that you felt the most prepared this year.

Travis Mayer (09:14):


Sevan Matossian (09:14):


Travis Mayer (09:14):

Year I got hurt. This year it was out, but the year before that.

Sevan Matossian (09:18):

Oh, okay. Okay.

Travis Mayer (09:19):

Yeah. So then hand, or what was it? I double hamstringing cramped on the first event, ripped my hands on the chest bar in the first event, and I haven’t ripped in years. And I was like, what? Just took place. Then we go to the next event, climb on the peg board. My hand slips, so I grab onto the peg and it literally just tears my whole hand apart and I was like, you got to be kidding me. And this was the second event. And I feel like that just kind of sets the tone where the first two events, you have these expectations of showing up, really trying to execute. You’ve worked really hard on these things and then boom, here, let’s punch you in the face on one event. Oh, next event. Let’s just rip your hand to shred. And now you’re competing with that. And I feel like it just kind of set the tone for me, and I personally had a hard time snapping out of that. And even do you

Sevan Matossian (10:08):

Prepare for that ahead of time to snap out of it? Are you like, okay, if this happens, eat two jolly ranchers and slap yourself in the face?

Travis Mayer (10:15):

Yeah, I feel like sometimes you do, but I also feel like you have to have those experiences to learn and grow from that where I think I just probably mentally wasn’t as prepared as I thought I was to handle the more adverse situation of that, of okay, what really could potentially go wrong and then go wrong again and then go wrong again. And I think after the third thing, I max even tried to snap me out of it and I was not having it. I was just like over it and just pissed off about it. And then you’re ultimately ruining the whole experience in general from that. And I mean, looking back at it, you wish you could have done it a different way, but that’s just not the way it works.

Sevan Matossian (10:58):

I want you to know, take this for what it’s worth, but Patricia says that she’s seen many men tear while pegging, so you shouldn’t feel

Travis Mayer (11:07):


Sevan Matossian (11:09):

It can happen to the best of them.

Travis Mayer (11:11):

Yeah, it can. Oh, it did. It got me. It got me good. I was so pissed off about that

Sevan Matossian (11:18):

Someone tore this year really bad. That was surprised. Was it Vellner? What event was that this year that just whole hands were coming off. Something happened this year early.

Caleb Beaver (11:29):

He did legless rope climbs in semifinals.

Sevan Matossian (11:31):

Oh yeah, yeah. Oh, with semifinals. Were the ropes wet? Is that why

Caleb Beaver (11:35):

They had to control the descent down?

Travis Mayer (11:37):

So I think that’s

Caleb Beaver (11:38):

What to their hands,

Travis Mayer (11:39):

Hands from that

Sevan Matossian (11:41):

Caleb chimes in. Well, thank you Mr. Bieber. Yeah, those tears were nasty. Hey, is the hand tear really that bad? Does it change things?

Travis Mayer (11:50):

It’s definitely depth, right? If you get a little callous and it kind of rips, I feel like those are kind of okay.

Sevan Matossian (11:57):

No, I mean the really deep ones where it’s just a fucking bloody mess.

Travis Mayer (12:01):

Those hurt, I think then it just makes everything you do after that super sensitive to grab onto. So any barbell work, any, I remember then we had the squat, clean traverse, whatever, and when I would clean, I would just hold the bar at my fingertips. It was just, it’s painful holding weight out, so it

Sevan Matossian (12:20):

Takes the edge off. It does take the edge off. You lose the millisecond here, you lose a few pounds there because you’re tentative.

Travis Mayer (12:27):

Oh, for sure. Maybe that’s just your soft, who knows? But for me, I feel like it definitely changes the feeling and kind of go get it mentality of you’re just going to be semi tentative when you’re going to grab onto the bar or jump up and do toes to bar, but you’re holding on more with your fingertip versus your whole hand. And I feel like that’s just going to of course affect the overall performance.

Sevan Matossian (12:56):

Vellner tort, the games. Yeah, they got infected. I didn’t know they got infected, but something did happen to ’em at the games that was so nasty. Really early on. So nasty. What was it?

Travis Mayer (13:05):

Well, I feel that’s Vellner, right? Falls from the top of the cargo net that one year.

Sevan Matossian (13:10):

He needs challenge.

Travis Mayer (13:12):


Sevan Matossian (13:13):

He needs adversity. Hey Travis, there’s a video of you training with the 250 pound sandbag.

Travis Mayer (13:21):


Sevan Matossian (13:23):

When I think of the sandbag and when I think of going back

Travis Mayer (13:26):

A little ball, a little ball, that’s you. I just grab a little ball and throw you up.

Sevan Matossian (13:29):

Yeah, that’s two of me. That’s two of me. That’s me and my wife.

Travis Mayer (13:33):

Five pounds.

Sevan Matossian (13:34):

No, but close. That’s you grabbing me and my wife and saving us from a burning. That’s you grabbing your whole family dude and running out of the burning building.

Travis Mayer (13:42):

That’s probably, I don’t know, that might be grabbing more than my kids.

Sevan Matossian (13:50):

I know you’re a professional athlete, but there’s a danger component to the bag. I feel like that’s not there for all the other implements. Meaning when I saw them doing this at the games, everyone was doing this shit with their neck and people’s backs were tweaked and is that a dangerous thing to practice?

Travis Mayer (14:10):

I don’t think so. I think once

Sevan Matossian (14:11):

You neck’s fine, that doesn’t,

Travis Mayer (14:13):

I think when you started, once they started adding like, Hey, you got to go to your shoulder now and you’re getting up to 340 pounds and stuff. I think from the inexperience of doing that, you potentially can, but I think for most of us, we’ve all carried a 300 or done shuttles with it. Whatever you want to say. I think it’s just becoming more normal now that you’re implementing going to the shoulder with it. But I think I do it pretty frequently, so I don’t feel like it’s a dangerous movement if you’re doing it wrong or if you’re doing it right. But if you of course aren’t sure what you’re doing, then yeah, it’s going to get a little out of hand.

Sevan Matossian (14:56):

Dotcom did a video back in the day where a guy, Jim had programmed a running with Kettlebells and it was run and then turned around

Travis Mayer (15:04):

Throwdown one time.

Sevan Matossian (15:06):

Pardon me?

Travis Mayer (15:07):

At ooc Throwdown, it was like you had 2 53 kettlebells run. I think it was a mile take one kettlebell off, run another mile with one kettlebell, then run a mile without.

Sevan Matossian (15:19):

This was at a gym that was in Looc, California. This was just at a crossroad gym and the guy paralyzed himself and had to from the neck down just from some tweak he did. You know what I mean? From carrying that. I just feel like that bag, man, I know you guys are professionalized, but there’s just no symmetry in it and it’s just crazy weight on the spine. I don’t mean to jinx you anyway. Okay. You’re fine with it. You’re like, fuck you quit being a pussy. You don’t understand.

Travis Mayer (15:43):

Yeah, I mean, well, what am I going to do? Right? They keep programming it. You got to figure out how to do it. So I feel like you train it and get comfortable using it and the more exposure I feel like you can create and learn to create tension and brace and be kind of like an odd position catching it. I feel like it’ll make you set up for success rather than just being like, nah, I’m not going to do it. Because it could potentially lead to something where I think, I mean, growing up racing motocross, I feel like you can’t really have the fear of what could happen. I got run over a bunch. I had pegs go through my leg. I had plenty of things that happened and took place, but you can’t think about that as you’re racing.

Sevan Matossian (16:18):

Second pegging experience, second pegging injury that’s come up on this show in 17 minutes. I would’ve never thought that bag’s crazy heavy. I mean, if you leave it in the middle of the gym, there’s not very many people who are. It’s going to stay there

Travis Mayer (16:35):

Kind of. Yeah. I did just buy a 400 pound one though, but I haven’t filled it up.

Sevan Matossian (16:42):

What do you fill it with?

Travis Mayer (16:43):


Sevan Matossian (16:44):

You have sand in. Where do you live in Georgia?

Travis Mayer (16:47):

Yeah, but I mean you can just go to Home Depot or Lowe’s or something and get a bunch of bags and just Lowe,

Sevan Matossian (16:54):

What is a 400 pound sandbag for?

Travis Mayer (16:58):

It’s as tall as you.

Sevan Matossian (17:01):

I believe it. I believe it.

Travis Mayer (17:03):

I don’t know. I saw it on Rogue’s website when I was looking to get a new replacement bag and I was like, I don’t know. I feel like this would be kind of cool to figure out how to look at the size of that thing.

Sevan Matossian (17:13):

God, I love you, Caleb. The whole time I was like, let me see this fucking thing.

Travis Mayer (17:17):

Look at the difference of that. So I don’t know

Sevan Matossian (17:22):

How much is the 400 pound bag? Does your wife know you bought that?

Travis Mayer (17:26):


Sevan Matossian (17:28):

Oh my god. You bought $165 bag.

Travis Mayer (17:32):

I did.

Sevan Matossian (17:33):

Hey, did that

Travis Mayer (17:34):

Mean you right now?

Sevan Matossian (17:35):

Pardon me? Yeah. Caleb’s getting one. Hey, I’m so curious how many of those 400 pound bags they’ve sold?

Travis Mayer (17:44):

I would assume probably 10.

Sevan Matossian (17:47):


Travis Mayer (17:48):

I don’t know. Feel like it’d be cool and if anything, we’ll of course take weight out and use it, but I mean what that year as the games, what was the heaviest? It ended at what? Three 40? Three 50 for the lift.

Sevan Matossian (18:02):

Well, that is the thing too, right? If you want a 350 pound bag, you have to get the 400 pound bag.

Travis Mayer (18:07):

So to ultimately get it to that, so I said, we’ll originally take it at three 50, play with it, and then go for the 400. I feel like it’d be cool to just be able to pick it up and carry it.

Sevan Matossian (18:21):

Absolutely nuts.

Travis Mayer (18:23):

I feel like it’s one of those things, right? If you squat 500, that’s kind of cool. I feel like if you can carry 400 pound bag on your chest plate, that’d be pretty cool.

Sevan Matossian (18:31):

How tall are you?

Travis Mayer (18:33):

Five 11.

Sevan Matossian (18:34):

Oh, you’re tall. And how much do you weigh?

Travis Mayer (18:37):

2 0 5.

Sevan Matossian (18:39):

And how old are you?

Travis Mayer (18:41):


Sevan Matossian (18:43):

And are you Caucasian or black?

Travis Mayer (18:45):

Would you like to keep going with any more questions?

Sevan Matossian (18:48):

Can you put your hands behind your back please?

Travis Mayer (18:52):

Would you like my social as well?

Sevan Matossian (18:53):

And you have four kids?

Travis Mayer (18:55):

Yep. Come on. You should know that. You should know that. Come on.

Sevan Matossian (19:00):

Any issues with Well, you could throw in. Yeah. And a fifth one on the way.

Travis Mayer (19:05):

No. Nope, nope, nope.

Sevan Matossian (19:10):

No more. How’s recovery? Great. Beautiful family by the way. I don’t just saying that either. You’re stoked.

Travis Mayer (19:18):

Thanks, man. No, I think from a recovery standpoint, I spent a lot time hate catching you doing it. And then I feel like, right, so I feel like I take more care of myself and it’s probably on a tighter timeframe, but finishing workouts, hopping on a bike or something, cooling down ice bathing every night, and then I’m usually in bed at nine o’clock and probably asleep by 9 0 5.

Sevan Matossian (19:44):

So you’re having issues with recovery as you get older? That’s what I’m hearing you say.

Travis Mayer (19:48):

No, I feel like that’s why I do recover well is that I go to bed early. I take care of myself

Sevan Matossian (19:54):

Specifically. I mean between multiple workouts in a day. I’m not worried about your soreness of your glutes or your hamstring recovery or your shoulders. What I think what goes in athletes as they get older is their recovery between their 8:00 AM workout and their 11:00 AM workout.

Travis Mayer (20:12):

No, I feel like I’ve done the same for the last probably few years of, I feel like you just kind of get into a routine of what works and I kind of have figured out for my body what works best. So immediately when I’m done taking a shake, then I eat or before that, then I’m cooling down on a bike, then doing some sort of static stretching or getting PT work done a few times a week. And then from there, then eat lunch and then go right in the next session. So right after finished before this had a shake, I’ll go out and do another workout probably in an hour or so. So I’ll eat when we’re and then go to another one.

Sevan Matossian (20:50):

Spiegel, let’s talk about Wackadoo. Marjorie Taylor Green. No, I love Ms. Green. Fuck you. And by the way, if you talk to her, tell her I’d like to have her on the show. I admire her immensely. Her presence, her speaking skills, her fitness, her hair. So you’re going to go to the games, you’re going to be 32, that’s the plan this year to go hard?

Travis Mayer (21:16):

Yeah, I mean, I wouldn’t be doing this if I wasn’t trying to go hard and go after it. I mean, I’ll go rogue first. Rogue will be what’s next? Then Waap poo that, and then the whole season will kind of start over.

Sevan Matossian (21:29):

You said you wouldn’t be doing this if you didn’t plan to go hard. What do you think about Noah going to the game? The games? No, going to the games this year without the intention of winning?

Travis Mayer (21:44):

What? My personal thought on that?

Sevan Matossian (21:46):

Yeah. Yeah. Let’s just say no one’s listening that really bummed out, that really bum me out when he’s like, he’s already announcing, he’s going teams the next year and shit. I’m like, come on, Noah. Not bum out. I was mad at him, but I, I felt almost bad for him that that’s not the way you should do it.

Travis Mayer (22:03):

I mean, I would agree to that of if I knew it was my last year, I feel like you’d want to really dive more into that. Just knowing, hey, this is my last year as an individual. I want to finish this as strong as possible and see where I can really take it on the last year. But I know for him, just because personally knowing him and it was more just like he wanted to enjoy the experience of enjoying training and getting ready for the games and training with people, doing more class stuff, just different type of training than what I believe is setting you up for contending at the games. He’s been able to do that for the last X amount of years. So I feel like to then go there on your final year as an individual and not be near that, I would assume that that would be pretty frustrating.


You’re going there to compete and I think internally he’s a competitor, so no matter what you get there and if it’s not going away according to plan, you’re going to be frustrated. Even if your intent was like, Hey, I’m just here to enjoy the experience deep down, that has to hurt. At least for me it would because it’s like I’m there and I want to contend and try to fight for a spot and do the best of my abilities. And I think when you get in that moment and realize maybe I should have trained a little harder or whatever, but I think he accepted that that was what he agreed to do going into this season and then just kind of accepted that that’s where he ended up

Sevan Matossian (23:39):

Rambler. Noah is such a good dude. Positive energy all day for sure. Yes,

Travis Mayer (23:44):

He does. A hundred percent.

Sevan Matossian (23:45):

I had this friend whose girlfriend broke up with him in college

Travis Mayer (23:52):


Sevan Matossian (23:52):

He asked her if he could have sex with her one last time and she did. And I’m like, just from my back. I was like, this is so weird.

Travis Mayer (24:00):

That is weird. What does that have to do with No, it’s game.

Sevan Matossian (24:06):

I feel like that there’s a bridge there. Either your time is done or it’s not done. I understand the desire of wanting to have sex with her one last time. You know what I mean? I understand you think you’re going to win or over with something magical, but

Travis Mayer (24:28):

I was just trying to figure out what you were comparing that to. But now I get it.

Sevan Matossian (24:31):

There’s just a, and my friend, and they did, they had sex one more time. It didn’t help. It didn’t help him. I think it made things worse

Travis Mayer (24:42):

Probably. Did

Sevan Matossian (24:44):

I need to get no on here and ask him if he wishes he would’ve changed that. Do you remember that one year he showed up at the games?

Travis Mayer (24:52):

Well, he’s still not filming with you.

Sevan Matossian (24:54):

No, I don’t know. I don’t know. He hasn’t answered my last two or three texts, but he’s so nice to me. Do you know what I mean?

Travis Mayer (25:02):

Because he’s such a nice guy.

Sevan Matossian (25:05):

When he finally does return my text, he’ll be like, there’s something happened. You know what I mean? His dog ate his phone or something. He’s not a ghoster. He’ll be like, not now Sevan. You know what I mean? He’s sincere to me. Someone said he’s someone said he’s cringe. He’s not cringe. Jason. He’s not cringe. He’s fun. He’s easy. I enjoy being around him so much.

Travis Mayer (25:26):

He is, I feel like social media sometimes portrays different. You think he’s just, that’s not real and it’s like a front, but that’s just how he is all the time. He’s bubbly. He’s always excited. He’s always eager to do something. He’s always just like a nice person.

Sevan Matossian (25:46):

He’s like, if he was a dog, he’d be, his tail is fucking on. Just wagging like a mofo.

Travis Mayer (25:51):

He would be his dog. That’s what he would be.

Sevan Matossian (25:53):

He he’s such so you don’t go last year. Why didn’t you go?

Travis Mayer (26:01):

So I had a severe bone bruise of the hook of the handmaid inside my hand and I couldn’t, so it’s the bone pretty much inside your hand here.

Sevan Matossian (26:11):

Okay. How did that happen?

Travis Mayer (26:13):

Well, that’s a great question. There was never a moment. So at during the team event, me, myself and Chandler, we finish wake up the next morning and I go to press to sit up out of the bed and can’t physically press. And I was like, well, that’s kind of weird. Then I was like, whatever post competition you always

Sevan Matossian (26:36):

Do you have covid? Do you have Covid right now?

Travis Mayer (26:39):

No, I have sinusitis.

Sevan Matossian (26:40):

Okay, we’ll get to that in a second. Okay.

Travis Mayer (26:42):

Yeah, that’s fine. Yeah, it’s definitely eating me up right now. It’s not fun, but couldn’t put any pressure on it. Went to grab my luggage and it was pretty painful, but I was like, I’ll give it a few days and it’ll probably be fine. I guess a week goes by and my ex is like, all right, you ready to jump back in? I’m like, yeah. So then he wrote some easy overhead squat and support holds, and I went to hop up onto the ring and couldn’t even get my body weight onto the ring at all. And I was like, well, that’s strange. I was like, all right, we’ll give it another week. So we just did some other stuff, did some lower body, more machine work, and then we started to try something else and I was like, I still can’t put any weight on my hand. Zero. If it was life or death, if you told me to try to hold a support hold, I was done. I couldn’t do it

Sevan Matossian (27:32):

Because of pain, because of discomfort.

Travis Mayer (27:34):

It literally felt like the bone was shooting through my hand

Sevan Matossian (27:37):

Like a plantar fasciitis. But on your hand.

Travis Mayer (27:40):

I have no clue. I’ve never had that, so I don’t know the feeling of that.

Sevan Matossian (27:43):

You didn’t want that one.

Travis Mayer (27:44):

Yeah. So then ended up, I have an orthopedic here, went and got an M R I, CT X-ray all done. And then they were just like, it’s a severe bone bruise. What the

Sevan Matossian (27:54):

Fuck is a bone bruise?

Travis Mayer (27:56):

It just about as close to a break as it could have been without being broken. Like you would rather,

Sevan Matossian (28:02):

I thought that was a stress fracture.

Travis Mayer (28:05):

Yeah, he was like, you would’ve rather it been broken. I could have taken it out. He’s like, so now you have the chance of being a month to six months before it could be recovered. So then it was around five months before it was fully recovered. So I just played a bunch of golf is what I did.

Sevan Matossian (28:27):

What do you mean? He could have taken it out?

Travis Mayer (28:29):

Well, if it was broken, they go in and they surgically can take that out.

Sevan Matossian (28:34):

You don’t need that bone.

Travis Mayer (28:35):

No. And then he said at 16 weeks you could go in and break it if we wanted to. And I was like, dude, no, you don’t need that bone. You don’t need it.

Sevan Matossian (28:50):

Yeah, there’s a whole generation of people who don’t think they need another bone that they’re having removed too. I wonder how that’s playing out for them. Don’t have any bones removed. Don’t have any

Travis Mayer (29:00):

Bones. But no, I already knew I was sitting the season out, so I was like, I’m already going to have to rest and take time off. So I was just going to take that time fully off. So I did. Do you

Sevan Matossian (29:12):

Have any stories where, and then after he told me that, I went back to the house and I opened up my bible and Psalms 13, four spoke to me and my wife put her arms around me and I knew at that point that, do you have one of those?

Travis Mayer (29:23):


Sevan Matossian (29:24):

Come on, dude.

Travis Mayer (29:26):

I came home, I was angry and pissed off that my season was over and then was furious. Took

Sevan Matossian (29:32):

The hole in the wall.

Travis Mayer (29:33):


Sevan Matossian (29:34):

Threw one of your kids out the front door.

Travis Mayer (29:36):

Yeah, I was pretty pissed off to be honest. And then I think I came back to the gym and was like, maybe I’ll try to train or do something. And then Max was like, you need to just stop. And then we kind of realized that that was the end of the season and so I took up one of my enjoyable hobbies of playing golf and pretty much played golf every single day and I didn’t want to

Sevan Matossian (29:59):

Really every day.

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