#1028 – Where in the World is Brian Friend?

Brian Friend (00:00):

Coming weekend.

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Welcome to the return of the Disc golf show with Brian and Sevan. On today’s show, we’ll be talking about the United States Disc Golf Championships, which Brian will be in attendance for this week. Brian, welcome back to the show. Tell us about your favorite sport that draws billions of viewers to the internet on a daily basis.

Brian Friend (00:23):

Yeah, yeah. Billions. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Going to South Carolina this weekend with my brother to watch. Actually, I think I’m going to meet up with Ezra Aderhold, who we interviewed a couple months ago.

Sevan Matossian (00:33):

That’s cool. I tried to get that other guy on. Who won the

Brian Friend (00:37):


Sevan Matossian (00:38):

No, you sent me, I’d never heard of his name before, but you told me he won the national championships or something. I tried to get him on.

Brian Friend (00:44):

Oh, Isaac Robinson.

Sevan Matossian (00:46):

Is that who it is? Okay. Yeah, he didn’t have follow. Yeah,

Brian Friend (00:49):

No. He picked up a lot more that week though.

Sevan Matossian (00:52):

Look, I’m tripping on how my skin looks. Look, I’m going to click touch, touch up my appearance. Look it. I just put a filter on. Can you tell the difference? Oh yeah. My wrinkles in my forehead. Go away. Can you

Brian Friend (01:02):

Do that for me

Sevan Matossian (01:03):

And then you could do it. Oh, I wonder if I can do that for you. Hey, welcome. Where are you?

Brian Friend (01:13):

Fort Wayne, Indiana.

Sevan Matossian (01:15):

I think that’s where Cobra Rhodes lives.

Brian Friend (01:19):


Sevan Matossian (01:20):

Cobra Rhodes actor. Arm wrestler. Renaissance man, friend of mine. Cobra Cobra.

Brian Friend (01:27):

Have you had him on the show?

Sevan Matossian (01:31):

I think I sent

Brian Friend (01:32):

His name’s. Cobra. You got to get him on the show.

Sevan Matossian (01:34):

I know. I think maybe I’ve sent him a link and he’s popped in before, but yeah, I can’t remember. Befriend Brian. Friend. Do you live by Toca Falls?

Brian Friend (01:53):

Do you know where that is?

Sevan Matossian (01:55):

No. Do you? No.

Brian Friend (01:57):

I feel like it might be pranking me.

Sevan Matossian (01:59):

Okay. It’s possible. Let me see. I’m going to put it into the map here really quick. Are you in Indiana?

Brian Friend (02:09):

Masters Fitness Championship. Just ended tonight.

Sevan Matossian (02:12):

Oh, you were at that. It’s for the Master Fitness Collective.

Brian Friend (02:18):

Last year was called Masters Fitness Collective. This year it’s called Masters Fitness Championship,

Sevan Matossian (02:25):

But it’s put on by the people. What’s the name of the organization that puts it on

Brian Friend (02:30):

Masters Fitness Championship? I think at least Masters Fitness.

Sevan Matossian (02:34):

Alright, fine. Fine, fine. Okay. Toka Falls is here. There’s Madison. It’s that Red dot. It’s in Georgia.

Brian Friend (02:45):

Oh, well I live in Charlotte, which you can see over there on the right side. I’m going there tomorrow for the first time since August 15th.

Sevan Matossian (02:51):

Where’s Charlotte?

Brian Friend (02:53):

Like northeast of where the red is. A little further right than that

Sevan Matossian (02:57):

Is Spartanburg. Is that where Crash Crucible is?

Brian Friend (03:00):

Yeah. And Rock Hill to the road of that is where the US Disc golf championship is.

Sevan Matossian (03:05):

Oh, there, Charlotte. I see it. Okay. Oh shit. Okay. God, how stoked are you that it’s right in your hood?

Brian Friend (03:11):

Yep. My brother will come down. He’ll stay with me and we’ll just drive back and forth every day. It’s like 40 minutes.

Sevan Matossian (03:16):


Brian Friend (03:17):

Winthrop University Spartanburg’s about 90 minutes and then there’s Greenville over there.

Sevan Matossian (03:23):

Spartanburg’s 90 minutes from Charlotte. So Taylor and Jr are 90 minutes apart?

Brian Friend (03:27):


Sevan Matossian (03:28):

Okay. Shit, for some reason I thought they were a little bit closer, but that makes sense that they’re further apart. That explains some things. Audrey. Brian, my sweetest angel.

Brian Friend (03:40):

Yeah, but you didn’t make the bed last night, Audrey?

Sevan Matossian (03:43):

Yeah. Audrey, what are you doing? You left in a hurry

Brian Friend (03:47):

Or this morning I guess it would’ve been

Sevan Matossian (03:49):

Farm fit eighth. Hey, what’s up? How are you? Eighth is better than ninth, I guess, or eighth could be just perfect.

Brian Friend (03:57):

My birthday’s on the eighth, so thank you.

Sevan Matossian (04:01):

Patrick Clark. Even with Rogers, I don’t think they would stand a chance against Casey. Okay. Sports stock. Okay, before we get into stuff, so how many years have you lived in Chicago or did you live in Chicago?

Brian Friend (04:13):

I lived there from 1987 when I was born until 2005 or six when I went to college.

Sevan Matossian (04:22):

Okay, and then you went back?

Brian Friend (04:25):

I spent a year there in 2013. Excuse me. And then I was there from 2018 ish until this past May, or actually I guess I moved in end of June.

Sevan Matossian (04:37):

So that gives us three 10 and five. That’s 18 years and then we’ll give you 19 and then we’ll give you five more. That’s 24 years. In those 24 years, did you ever get into the Chicago Bears? That’s a national football league, also known as the N F L. That’s their local team.

Brian Friend (04:56):

They won the Super Bowl two years before I was born. In 1985, they went to the Super Bowl. Someone can check me on this. In 2007 or eight, they played against the Indianapolis Colts. They returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown, and then they got palmed by Peyton Manning the rest of the game, and they’ve been relatively worthless every other year.

Sevan Matossian (05:14):

And that year they won 85, 86, I think I remember they had a guy named the refrigerator and then they had another guy named Jim McMahon or something. John McMahon or John McEnroe or

Brian Friend (05:25):

Something. McMahon, yeah. Yeah, Jim

Sevan Matossian (05:26):

McMahon. Yeah,

Brian Friend (05:27):

You got it right the first time.

Sevan Matossian (05:28):

So now

Brian Friend (05:30):

John McEnroe was their coach,

Sevan Matossian (05:32):

And do you know anything about how they’re doing this year? No,

Brian Friend (05:38):

Not very. Well, I think they might’ve won against Denver today though. I didn’t check.

Sevan Matossian (05:42):

No, I heard they lost in the last minute. Oh,

Brian Friend (05:44):


Sevan Matossian (05:45):

So Chicago,

Brian Friend (05:47):

My friend Nico Rono in Denmark, he’s a huge football fan. He said that there’s a really good quarterback coming out in the draft next year, and the Bears should probably try to just lose every game so they can get the best quarterback they’ve ever had.

Sevan Matossian (05:59):

Oh, that’s interesting. Look at 31 28.

Brian Friend (06:03):

There we go.

Sevan Matossian (06:04):

So Denver was oh and three coming into this and the Bears were oh and three, and now the bears are oh and four

Brian Friend (06:11):

Making our way towards that first pick, I guess.

Sevan Matossian (06:13):


Brian Friend (06:14):

I actually think the Bears have, I have a draft pick from another shitty team, so they have a chance to have two early first round picks next year. But the thing is in the N F L, you have to have a good offensive line, and I can’t remember the last time the Bears had a good offensive line that usually is the fault of the, or people usually blame the owners for that, so.

Sevan Matossian (06:34):

Well, this guy, Tyson Bejan has been on the show a few times and Travis his father, and I just hope that he hasn’t played yet, but I spent $450 on the YouTube, like N F L Thinked because someone said he’s going to play today, but he didn’t play today.

Brian Friend (06:50):

But that should allow you to watch any games throughout the rest of the season, right?

Sevan Matossian (06:55):

Yeah, yeah. Unless they’re playing locally. If they’re playing in California, I won’t get to see it. It’s a blackout.

Brian Friend (07:04):

Well, you can probably get a ticket to that game for less than four 50 bucks.

Sevan Matossian (07:08):

Yeah, true. Ken Walters, I was watching this morning show and at some point where Haley’s being nice and schooling stevon on his morning coffee. She has the sweetest voice, se you really punted your coverage. FB

Brian Friend (07:20):

Reference, that’s a football reference and he means you out punted your, you skipped the word out. That means you kicked the ball so far that your coverage team couldn’t get down the field far enough to tackle the guy. So he was able to find the holes and run it back for a touchstone. But he’s basically saying that Haley’s a lot better than you.

Sevan Matossian (07:36):

Oh, I shit the bed. That’s a sports metaphor. Thank you. That was cool how you explained that. What did something did? Oh, so one of my friends, I posted a picture of myself doing some deadlifts and one of my friends who you guys all know, but it shall not be named told me today that I’m like a 51 year old guy trying to behaving like Haley Adams.

Brian Friend (08:01):

Oh, okay.

Sevan Matossian (08:04):

Just saying

Brian Friend (08:06):

I don’t really, I don’t

Sevan Matossian (08:08):

I me neither. I dunno. I’m just saying I saw the word Haley and I thought of it wad, zombie. Just got to say Brian has been coming on the show since episode 20. Wow. Is that true?

Brian Friend (08:20):

I think, I don’t know when you started counting the episodes, but I feel like it came on right away when you started back up.

Sevan Matossian (08:26):

Oh, that’s awesome. It’s wild to think of how much has changed over the past few years and the trajectories you both are on. Love you both. Brian’s shit got all cockeyed. He ended up in Europe. He didn’t need to bring a hammer, straighten his shit out, bring him back to the states, to the south. Shit got all cocked. Dude,

Brian Friend (08:46):

It’s wild being over there. I give Pedro a ton of credit for keeping up with as much as he does. I have had motivation for years to bridge the gap between European and North American CrossFit, but being over there for almost three weeks, it’s different and it is very difficult to stay, to keep up with everything that’s going on on either side. So I’ve been thinking quite a lot about that since getting back.

Sevan Matossian (09:11):

What do you mean you’re over there and you’re consumed by the CrossFit scene over there as opposed to what’s going on here?

Brian Friend (09:18):

Yeah, and I should say it might not be that fair of an assessment because when you’re living somewhere, you can settle into a routine. I’ve been living out of a bag in hotel rooms and all this stuff and it’s really tough and some of the places I go, there’s, I don’t have of any time for myself. I don’t have any time to wind down or to catch up on the things that have happened that day or that week or whatever. But there’s also a big, big, big time difference and yeah, there’s a massive CrossFit scene in Europe from community level all the way up to the elite level just like there’s a North America. I think that neither one of ’em has as full or complete as an understanding or appreciation for the other as they ought to have. And I would like to change that.

Sevan Matossian (09:59):

Well, it is kind of cool that Europe does feel that separation. I remember, I can’t remember which arm wrestler who told me this, but they said, Hey, you’ll go to an arm wrestling tournament, you’ll arm wrestle a guy, he’ll beat you and you’ll know he’s better than you. But then as time goes by, each day goes by, your memory fades, your memory fades of the loss, and you start building up this confidence again that you could beat him and you’ve been working and you’ve been working on new things and you start to convince yourself that that guy’s not better than you. He was just better that day and that you can come back and battle him again and I bet you there’s some of that that goes on with Europe or just in the CrossFit space, right? I mean a year gives people some time to think, Hey, I can beat Laura right after the next day. They know they can’t on Monday. They’re like, she can still beat us.

Brian Friend (10:51):

They don’t have to wait a year.

Sevan Matossian (10:53):

Why do you say that

Brian Friend (10:55):

We got rogue coming up.

Sevan Matossian (10:56):

We do have rogue before we get to Rogue. So my point being is that maybe it’s healthy that there is that space there. It allows the Europeans to think that they can beat up on other people, the Australians and the Americans and vice versa that there’s some good

Brian Friend (11:11):

Yeah, I mean we might’ve talked about it when we talked about Madrid, but Jon Kosi was the highest finishing European male at the games this year and he went to Madrid and Lazar beat him and they were very aware of that. They’re very conscientious of who’s the top dog and who’s getting the best of whom where,

Sevan Matossian (11:30):

Who is better do you think right now better CrossFitter Lazar Juki or Koski

Brian Friend (11:38):

Lazar has been more consistent over the last three years, but the way you worded the question, I would go with Y Koski. Remember that Yona beat him on five out of the seven tests in Madrid. The only reason that Lazar beat him is because of the ones that Lazar beat him on. The rest of the field happened to be better than Y at those things. So he was getting more separation on the two event wins that he got and basically it came down to an execution error of Fiona on the clean. He only hit 142 kilos. He missed 1 49 and 1 51 and he said those are pretty routine weights for him. So he owned it, but I think that he got ’em at the games. I think he was overall better than him in Madrid, even though he didn’t get the win against him.

Sevan Matossian (12:18):

This is a little unfair, but you knew that I was going to ambush you with shit that that’s the way the show goes. Can you remember how I’m going to ask you some questions about along that exact same line about, gee, I had Gee on the show and I actually thought of this when he was on the show. Do you remember how he did at the semifinals in this year? Yeah, this year. Do you remember how well he did down there in South America?

Brian Friend (12:43):

Yeah. He basically lost to those two guys because of the first test he got 16th and there were a bunch of guys that middled him on that and even though he was better than them on many of the other tests, no one else was doing as well on that because there were a lot more high-skill things which precluded those athletes from allowing him to get the points back that he needed to overtake them after one bad event.

Sevan Matossian (13:06):

Yeah. Okay, perfect. That’s exactly the setup I needed. So who were the two guys who made it? It was and who else?

Brian Friend (13:14):

Kay and Souza.

Sevan Matossian (13:16):

Oh yeah, Kay and Souza. Did he make it? Did he even make

Brian Friend (13:18):

It to the Yeah, you just passed to me. It was 32nd.

Sevan Matossian (13:21):

Oh, okay, okay. Oh yeah, right. Okay, here we go. Do see

Brian Friend (13:24):

Those green flags,

Sevan Matossian (13:26):

Right? Thank you. That’s actually a better way to look at for it. Do you think that gee beats these guys if he was at the games? Absolutely. Yeah. Shit

Brian Friend (13:36):

Every time.

Sevan Matossian (13:37):

So you think he’s a better CrossFitter than KAKE and Kaylin soa? Yep. Interesting.

Brian Friend (13:44):

The current format for nearly, I don’t want to say for everything, but the current format for selecting athletes to the CrossFit games is not finding the best athletes to go to the CrossFit games worldwide and in some cases, not even within the same region. You could just look at Artur seminar and Ant Haynes Soff did not make the CrossFit games. He only was able to go because Morteza Scot could not get a visa to come here.

Sevan Matossian (14:09):

That’s the guy from Iran,

Brian Friend (14:11):

Excuse me, an Haynes did not make the CrossFit games.

Sevan Matossian (14:13):


Brian Friend (14:14):

Stop art semi off. Look at him. 39th he won Asian regional or semi-final easily Scroll up, keep scrolling up, find an Haynes

Sevan Matossian (14:24):

30th. He made the cut, he didn’t

Brian Friend (14:27):

Make the games

Sevan Matossian (14:28):

Right and he even made the first cut.

Brian Friend (14:30):

He got an invite six days before the games traveled from China to get there. Was jet lagged and whooped up on Arthur seminar off at the games.

Sevan Matossian (14:39):


Brian Friend (14:40):

Events for the CrossFit season are not currently really doing their job, in my opinion.

Sevan Matossian (14:46):

Okay. Okay. Now that we’ve fallen down the rabbit hole, you’re putting it on the programming on the structure of the season. Lemme push back a little bit. Why can’t it just be that, hey, an Haynes had a bad day at semifinals or it falls on, gee he had a bad event because here, lemme push a further on this. Lemme push a little further on this. Brian, something that Gee said about that first event. Oh, the depth of field at that semi-finals wasn’t deep enough to allow Gee to have people to help him. If you look at the points basic, and so then where do you put the blame on? Right? Lemme pull it up. Do you get what I’m saying here? The top three guys ran away, Gee’s with the top three guys and they ran away, but they only take three guys or two guys.

Brian Friend (15:46):

The thing that Gee is bad at is something that’s a low barrier to entry to be good at, which is aerobic capacity over a long time domain.


The things that GI is really good at are things that’s a high barrier to entry, extremely proficient with high skill gymnastics and weightlifting so there’s not as many people that can. So the second, third, fourth best guys in those things, there’s not a big chance. There might be one random guy who’s strong enough if there’s a big lifting event, but there’s not going to be, if there are people that are good enough to do the high skill implements that are required in the ring muscle up with a ruck workout or the leg rope climbs and strict hand stand pushup workout, et cetera, et cetera, then they’re going to be better across the board. There’s just not that many of those guys there. That’s not cross its fault at all. That’s just that South America is coming along and there are plenty of good guys on this list. We know who many of those people are and some of them have been pretty good over the years and variety of different competitions. But yeah, basically if you’re game eros, it’s like you can’t afford to be bad at something that most people are having a low hanging fruit to be good at and he is right now

Sevan Matossian (16:58):

That’s on him. So I’m trying to figure out if we were going to dole out the blame a little bit, what do you think about three people coming from South America?

Brian Friend (17:10):

Well, you know what I think about this, I think every competitive region should be guaranteed one spot and that there are ways that you can implement a qualifying process within the given year of the games to distribute those spots based on their performance and

Sevan Matossian (17:24):

Then we’re not quite there. The idea is there, it’s just not implemented properly.

Brian Friend (17:29):

Dave Eubanks has basically said that he’s going to make some changes to the way that the strength of field and worldwide rankings are structured from year one to year two. He’s alluded to that at the very least to maybe even said it directly and we’re waiting to see if that happens.

Sevan Matossian (17:45):

Okay, we need to ask about that.

Brian Friend (17:48):

It’d be great. I don’t know when the last time there’s been any kind of opportunity to ask anyone across at HQ publicly about those things.

Sevan Matossian (17:55):

That Guy Wey had dawn on and he did have

Brian Friend (17:58):

Some names. I’m not talking about him.

Sevan Matossian (18:00):


Brian Friend (18:01):

We were doing press conferences, right? We were having Justin Berg and Adrian Bosman available during different parts of the season. I don’t know if they have any plans to do any of that during the off season.

Sevan Matossian (18:11):

Yeah. Bring out Dave and Adrian to the court. We have some questions

Brian Friend (18:20):

Or if they don’t want to answer the questions, at least they could could give us some information. Say, Hey, we remember that we did say these things and we’re not going to do that. Justin Berg’s not here anymore. Or they could say, Hey, we did say that we were going to do these things and we have some announcements coming in October and November and we’re excited for ’em. You guys can be on the lookout for those.

Sevan Matossian (18:39):

Brian’s beard is back, I cannot pay attention. Tommy Rodriguez, 4 99. Brian, great meeting you. Thanks for kicking my ass in the crossover workout. Luckily came back after that one and finished up and forth. Were you in a competition against this guy?

Brian Friend (18:56):

I was standing with Bobby Petris who helps put on and owns and organizes this event and I just mentioned to him yesterday that I was in the mood to work out and he’s like, oh perfect, I’ll get you in a heat. What workout do you want to do? And I was like, well the only one I could even be competitive with these guys in is this crossover double under and skier workout. And he’s like, okay. I’m like, no, no, no, it’s their competition. It’s all good. He’s like, Nope, getting you in a heat. He goes, okay, you’re in a 45 to 49 Elite Heat with Jason Grub and all the other guys. Let’s see if you can take it out. Wow.

Sevan Matossian (19:27):

Is there a video of that somewhere?

Brian Friend (19:28):

Yeah, it’s on my YouTube. The whole thing. Will Plummer filmed it?

Sevan Matossian (19:31):


Brian Friend (19:33):

Not YouTube, Instagram. Sorry.

Sevan Matossian (19:37):

We’ll be back in a second. Gee, hold on, hold on. Let me see this. Hey, was that unsettling?

Brian Friend (19:48):

Well, I’m good at the crossovers. Is it? It’s the one on the top right? That’s the live stream of a different event.

Sevan Matossian (19:57):

This is crazy.

Brian Friend (20:00):

We want to check in.

Sevan Matossian (20:02):

I can’t even forward it. Was this nerve wracking?

Brian Friend (20:07):

No, not really because it was a thousand meter ski for time. Every minute you had to do 20 crossover single unders. I’m pretty good at those. And you just rip on the skier again, it’s going to be like five, six minutes and you’re done.

Sevan Matossian (20:18):

And how old are you? You’re 35, 34, 32.

Brian Friend (20:21):

I’m 36, so they were all at least nine up to potentially 14 years older than me.

Sevan Matossian (20:27):

Did any of them complain like, Hey, this is bullshit? No,

Brian Friend (20:31):

They were super nice as you see they were, I say thank you gents. They were very kind and they thought I was cool.

Sevan Matossian (20:39):

Wow. Oh there’s Tommy. Yeah,

Brian Friend (20:42):

So I ended up taking fifth and Jason got second in that one and he beat me by 10 seconds.

Sevan Matossian (20:49):

Wow. Crazy. Is this the first time you’ve ever done anything like this?

Brian Friend (20:56):

Yeah, probably. Those guys are good, man. They’re way, way, way stronger than me. Like I said, that’s the one test that I could have a chance to do.

Sevan Matossian (21:05):

I can’t believe how much younger Tommy looks than this guy in the yellow. The guy in the yellow. Look how young Tommy looks. Just ethnic skin. Geez, look at that guy. That guy looks like he’s from a Clin Eastwood movie. Who’s that? Do you know his name?

Brian Friend (21:23):

I think I did talk to him. I can’t remember all their names. There are so many. There are 40 divisions there.

Sevan Matossian (21:29):

Dude, what a crazy journey. You’re on some guy there. I had some guy from that event. Come on the show last minute, just like at six in the morning we were texting.

Brian Friend (21:40):

You don’t know who it was?

Sevan Matossian (21:43):

Jamie. Jamie. I remember I thought I was going to be a woman and a dude popped on and I’m like, dude, you’re Jamie. He said, yep. I think Jamie, Tammy, Jamie, Tammy,

Brian Friend (21:53):

Jamie Latimer.

Sevan Matossian (21:55):

No, maybe not Jamie.

Brian Friend (21:57):

It was a male or female.

Sevan Matossian (21:59):

It was a male and it was a vent organizer and he had a girl’s name or androgynous name or I dunno what the word is, non-binary name. Whatever his name could be for a boy or vagina or penis either. I know it works to use

Brian Friend (22:14):

Anymore. Nobody. He does. It’s off.

Sevan Matossian (22:20):

Who are the event organizers?

Brian Friend (22:25):

Jessica Ortiz. Ron Ortiz’s wife took a lot of the lead this year

Sevan Matossian (22:28):

And Okay. Not her

Brian Friend (22:30):

And yeah, Bob. Stu

Sevan Matossian (22:32):

Was 41, had two kids and didn’t look like he was 41. Jamie, Jamie, Jamie Free. Thank you Jamie. Jamie Latimer says Jamie free. Yeah. There we go. Look at all these old people know Judy knows. Judy. Judy. Judy. Judy. Judy. Judy. Judy. Tomorrow’s a big day for Judy.

Brian Friend (22:55):

Okay, well congratulations for the big

Sevan Matossian (22:58):

Day. Big day for Judy tomorrow. Okay, so let’s put what do they say in the business? Let’s wrap up the gee thing. How bad of a mistake is that then An Haynes is there, he does better than ours or sendoff Hay’s the last minute call.

Brian Friend (23:23):

I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily a mistake. I do think that it’s something that’s worth asking and I kind of say that with keeping in mind some of the other things that I’ve said just throughout the year about the progression of the season is that I think that there could stand to be a little bit more thought about, we understand at the community level what the openness, but it’s also a qualifying stage to the second part of the season and the quarters is a qualifying to the semi semis to the games and I didn’t see some of the natural progression or linear programming that would make sense if that’s what those things are. Also in addition to whatever the open exists for.

Sevan Matossian (24:06):

I was going to say, I wonder if when they program it, they know it’ll be a hiccup for gee, but I doubt it. I wonder if he knew,

Brian Friend (24:12):

And I’ve spoken to programmers and people who think about this quite a lot and some people say if I were doing that I would program the games first or at least a significant degree and I would work backwards from there. So I would know that, hey, by the time that the games comes around, I want to make sure that the best athletes in the world next year are being tested and based on what happened this year, I think we need to increase the weights here back off on the weights here, we need to increase the difficulty of the handstand or we want to go backwards to a less difficult version of it and have some of those pieces in mind. When I programmed competitions at the gym I was coaching in Chicago, I usually would write the programming for the next competition the week after the competition just happened.


And then over the course of the next six months or 12 months within the program that I was doing with the owner of the gym, we would start targeting some areas that we thought the athletes needed or didn’t need based on what was exposed in the program. So in theory they could do that too. And I’ve never been involved in heard anything intimately about how the programming works, but Well, that’s not entirely true. It sounds to me like from what I have heard that they programmed for the open and then the quarters and then the semis and then the games, and so I’m kind of throwing the thought out there that what if you started with the games and worked backwards and then that progression would probably make a lot more sense

Sevan Matossian (25:31):

To Gu or not to gee. The thing is when there is a

Brian Friend (25:36):

Brazilian Jiu-jitsu thing,

Sevan Matossian (25:38):

No, I just saw Bernie ee or not ee, I think it’s Shakespeare. Brian, I’m waiting for you in my towel. Geez Louise. How am I supposed to concentrate here? Yes, Judy? Yes. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Tomorrow’s big day. Big day. The thing is an Haynes and Sendoff thing, because they’re not big names, maybe they wouldn’t get attention, but it is a bummer for the fans. Gee’s, extremely popular. Hugely successful YouTube station. It just sucks because those TV shows, I don’t know if they still do this anymore, but in the eighties, nineties, there’d be a TV show and there’d be a character and then that character wouldn’t be able to sign the contract so they’d swap the character out and then there’d be a new dad on the show. You know what I mean? You’re watching Leave It to Beaver and then just the dad’s different and you’re

Brian Friend (26:36):

Like, what would be great.

Sevan Matossian (26:37):

Yeah. What

Brian Friend (26:39):

If he showed up in an offseason competition?

Sevan Matossian (26:42):


Brian Friend (26:43):

He got invited to one.

Sevan Matossian (26:45):

Which one?

Brian Friend (26:46):

He lost the invite and so he lost the spot.

Sevan Matossian (26:51):

He got invited to Rogue? Nope. Where? Grass Crucible? Nope. Waza

Brian Friend (27:01):


Sevan Matossian (27:02):

Oh, Madrid

Brian Friend (27:04):


Sevan Matossian (27:05):

Dubai. What do you mean he lost the invite?

Brian Friend (27:11):

I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (27:12):

When is Dubai, is it still coming up?

Brian Friend (27:15):

Yeah, December. I’ll be there doing the commentary again. December 7th, eighth, ninth, 10th, something like that.

Sevan Matossian (27:22):

But he sounded, Patrick says he talked about it. Savon? Yeah, but he didn’t say that he wasn’t going. I thought he made it sound like he might be going. He’s not going.

Brian Friend (27:35):

Nope. At least not that I’ve seen

Sevan Matossian (27:41):

Patrick. Patrick, what did he say on the podcast? Tell me what he said on the podcast. There’s something stuck in the carpet down here.

Brian Friend (27:50):

Is that new shirt?

Sevan Matossian (27:52):

No, it’s old. Oh,

Brian Friend (27:54):

You see the guy wearing the c e o shirt today? He made the podium. He got third.

Sevan Matossian (27:57):

No shit. Who is that?

Brian Friend (27:59):

He was in one of the men’s RX division. There was Elite and Rx.

Sevan Matossian (28:04):

Oh yeah. He said he was having Visa issues. I remember there was a whole talk on Visa. Didn’t he say God was going to fix that for him?

Brian Friend (28:14):

The Visa things are real. That is a real thing.

Sevan Matossian (28:17):

He needed his green card. Yeah, he had a Visa. Did he throw it away on accident? No. You can’t send shit by mail from fucking Dubai to Brazil. The world’s not that advanced. He has his Visa but needed his green card. Hey, you think if he showed up in Dubai, the Dubai whatever they call it, thing, fitness championship, they wouldn’t let him compete? Of course they’d let him compete.

Brian Friend (28:43):

They got 30 spots. They sent out 30 invites. They got 30 people who said yes,

Sevan Matossian (28:50):

They can fix that. They can wiggle him in Prince shit. Okay, where are we?

Brian Friend (29:02):

I would love to see him there. I still think he’s one of the best 20, 30 guys in the world. I want to see him compete. He

Sevan Matossian (29:09):

You went to Mayhem?

Brian Friend (29:11):

Yeah, he’s part of Power Monkey Camp.

Sevan Matossian (29:14):

And did you see Rich?

Brian Friend (29:18):

Rich was out hunting elk at that time.

Sevan Matossian (29:21):

Is this at Mayhem right here?

Brian Friend (29:24):

No, that’s at the Flip Fest in Crossville, Tennessee where the rest of Power Monkey Camp happens.

Sevan Matossian (29:29):

Is that Durante’s joint, is that like he has a power monkey facility?

Brian Friend (29:35):

No, no. They just use this place. It’s pretty well equipped for what they want to do there.

Sevan Matossian (29:41):

Is it across the gym?

Brian Friend (29:44):

No. It’s like a place for, you can host camps and retreats there. There’s a bunch of different cabins. There’s some big gyms. It’s a gymnastics, it’s a big gymnastics facility. There’s some ninja climbing stuff over there. There’s a ropes course, there’s a lake.

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