#1018 – Hunter & Hiller | Live Call In

Andrew Hiller (00:00):

It’s super long.

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

You had long hair before, right?

Andrew Hiller (00:03):

I have, yeah. I’ve also been bald.

Sevan Matossian (00:07):

Wow. Bam. We’re live. Is that fake hair? Is that like hair plants or something?

Andrew Hiller (00:13):

Me right now?

Sevan Matossian (00:14):

Yeah. No, you said you’ve also been bald.

Andrew Hiller (00:16):

Oh no, I just shaved it.

Sevan Matossian (00:18):


Speaker 3 (00:22):

I’m a nightmare Walking psychopath.

Sevan Matossian (00:24):

Talking careful.

Andrew Hiller (00:27):

Yeah, careful.

Sevan Matossian (00:31):

It’s a theme song at my house. Now Avi knows the words and shit. Walks around singing colors.

Andrew Hiller (00:36):

What do you mean? That’s the name of the song? Colors?

Sevan Matossian (00:38):

Yeah, colors from, do you know that movie?

Andrew Hiller (00:41):


Sevan Matossian (00:41):

With Pac-Man. Oh, you got to see it. Sean Penn, Robert Duvall back in the day. So good. They’re a gang task force unit. And Robert Duvall is, he’s a cop and he’s friends with the gangs and shit. He works the streets and Sean Penn’s a new cop and so he comes in all brazen and trying to follow the rule of law to a T and it causes all sorts of conflict and it’s good. It’s good. I like it.

Andrew Hiller (01:10):

How old is it?

Sevan Matossian (01:12):

Shit, dude. 30 years old. Maybe now. That’s why

Andrew Hiller (01:15):

I haven’t seen it.

Sevan Matossian (01:16):

That’s a great question. Colors movie. Lemme see what year. 1988.

Andrew Hiller (01:23):

Yeah, I mean that was a year or three years before I was born. Man,

Sevan Matossian (01:27):

That’ll be 40 years old in a couple years. Wow.

Andrew Hiller (01:31):

I’m just walking around singing songs from that. That’s crazy.

Sevan Matossian (01:34):

Mario Lopez was in that. I had no idea. Don Cheadle,

Andrew Hiller (01:38):

Dude. He’s going to be 20 trying to talk to people about this movie and they’re going to have no idea what he’s talking about.

Sevan Matossian (01:45):

Oh yeah. His things are the A team, $6 million, man and colors.

Andrew Hiller (01:51):

No one’s going to have any

Sevan Matossian (01:54):

Culturally just going to be so just fucking behind the eight ball.

Andrew Hiller (01:58):

Oh my. Mr. Tzen a team, right? Mr T?

Sevan Matossian (02:02):

Yeah. Yeah. Mr. T.

Andrew Hiller (02:03):

No one’s going to know who Mr T is, but it’s going to be his role model.

Sevan Matossian (02:06):

He wants me to invite Mr. T over to the house he wants. He’s like, Hey, do you have Mr. T’s phone number? I’m like, no. He is like, could you get it? I’m like, I could try. And he’s like, I want to have him over. I want to talk to him. And then he asked Alexa yesterday, how old mrt? He goes, oh, he’s 71. He’s getting up there.

Andrew Hiller (02:23):

We watched Equalizer two yesterday and Denzel Washington. You know how old he is?

Sevan Matossian (02:28):

No. How old? He looks like he’s starting to get up there.

Andrew Hiller (02:30):

I think he’s 60, but he doesn’t look 60. He doesn’t act 60, but he’s cool.

Sevan Matossian (02:36):

There was a guy at the skate track yesterday at the skate park on a B M X bike skating around getting crazy. He goes, Hey, how old are your boys? Came right up to me, right to my face, and I’m like six and eight. And he goes, oh. I go, Hey, how old are you just to kind of fuck with him? And he goes, 61. I mean, dude, he looked like he was 39. I was like, what the fuck? I’m like, you have kids? He goes, yeah. Was

Andrew Hiller (02:58):


Sevan Matossian (02:59):

In their thirties? No. No. Rodney looks young too. He

Andrew Hiller (03:02):

Does. He acts young. Dress is young. I like him.

Sevan Matossian (03:06):

Did you see Scott Schweitzer? I didn’t know Scott Schweitzer was older than me. Did you see this? He said something about his birthday in here. What’d he say?

Andrew Hiller (03:13):

He said, what’s up, Jordy?

Sevan Matossian (03:14):

Oh, he said he graduated in 88. I graduated in 90.

Andrew Hiller (03:18):

Oh, so he is 53.

Sevan Matossian (03:21):

I guess he skipped a few grades. Someone said there’s Who did

Andrew Hiller (03:25):

You did?

Sevan Matossian (03:25):

I graduated in 90.

Andrew Hiller (03:27):

What do you mean skipped a few grades?

Sevan Matossian (03:29):

Maybe He skipped a few grades. So he is not 53?

Andrew Hiller (03:32):

No. Do no one does that. Who do you know who skipped a grade?

Sevan Matossian (03:38):

Unless they’re Asian. Nobody.

Andrew Hiller (03:40):

Exactly. And Scott’s not Asian.

Sevan Matossian (03:42):

Good point. Sean. Linderman. Seon. Does Laura know? We think she’s a total dime. You mean does Laura Horvat know? We think she’s hot as fuck.

Andrew Hiller (03:51):

Dude, I tried to comment on her post today trying to throw some shade at her or Tia or somebody tried to stir the pot a little bit and Instagram won’t let me comment on stuff

Sevan Matossian (04:02):

For how long we’ve

Andrew Hiller (04:04):

Removed this feature until I think it was tomorrow. But they’re really screwed with me.

Sevan Matossian (04:09):

Yeah, I wasn’t allowed to post yesterday for some reason.

Andrew Hiller (04:13):

It’s because we’ve gotten assaulted, dude. We’ve gotten bullied off Instagram.

Sevan Matossian (04:18):

Yeah, it’s crazy.

Andrew Hiller (04:19):

They’re coming for us.

Sevan Matossian (04:21):

It says you can’t post for 24 hours. Tell us if you think this is by accident. I clicked the tell us button. I’m like, what have I done?

Andrew Hiller (04:28):

Nothing happened.

Sevan Matossian (04:29):


Andrew Hiller (04:31):

But it was annoying because all I wanted to say, all I said on that post was, did you read Laura’s post this morning?

Sevan Matossian (04:40):

No. It

Andrew Hiller (04:40):

Was along the lines of people talking behind your back. And I go, this is a direct response to Tia competing at Rogue, isn’t it? I just wanted to stir the pot because it’s what it seemed like

Sevan Matossian (04:52):

And I Oh, so it’s cryptic. It’s cryptic.

Andrew Hiller (04:56):

Yeah. Laura is saying people are talking behind your back and I’m assuming it’s in light of Tia being announced at Rogue.

Sevan Matossian (05:03):

Everyone’s talking behind your back. You’re the fucking champ. And no one can get fucking ahold of you. You won’t let us talk to your face. I have two things I want to say behind your back. One, you’re hot as fuck. If I was 30 years, I wonder if she dates short, guys.

Andrew Hiller (05:19):

Well, if you were 30 years younger, you’d be what, four years younger than she is right now? So you’d be shorter and younger than her at that point.

Sevan Matossian (05:26):

Yeah. Yeah. What could I do? And I was homeless then don’t worry about those who talk behind your back. They’re behind you for a reason. What’s this Kado CDOs?

Andrew Hiller (05:36):

You’ve asked her, hadn’t you? Isn’t that It means whatever you want it to mean,

Sevan Matossian (05:40):

Bro. I don’t remember anything we talk about. I’m I

Andrew Hiller (05:45):

Know you. It drives me. I’m fucking crazy.

Sevan Matossian (05:47):

I’m you too. But I’m in sheer terror when I talk to her. Hey, what’s up dude? Oh, what are you guys doing on my chat? Chat roulette. Damn.

Andrew Hiller (05:57):

Who am I? Who am I?

Hunter McIntyre (06:00):

You are Dionne Sanders.

Andrew Hiller (06:02):

No, I’m you, but I like that too.

Hunter McIntyre (06:04):

Do Dionne Sanders, did you see that? His deal just generated over $4 million for blenders eyewear. And then you look at the buttery Bross and they probably generated about four to $500 in a 10 year partnership. So I’m

Sevan Matossian (06:20):

What did he do with blenders?

Hunter McIntyre (06:22):

So Dion Sanders got this whole swag thing going on, head coach of the buffs, and they came out with a unique eyewear that was a partnership with him. And the short period of time that he’s been in that role, it’s generated over $4 million worth of sales.

Sevan Matossian (06:40):

Hey, what about that clip that I see going around where he didn’t know the name of the guy who snapped the ball to his son?

Hunter McIntyre (06:46):

That’s okay.

Sevan Matossian (06:47):

It is Okay. Okay. He’s the coach and he doesn’t know who the center is. He’s got a lot

Hunter McIntyre (06:50):

Of stuff going on. He’s got a lot of stuff going on. You’re the guy in the center.

Sevan Matossian (06:55):


Hunter McIntyre (06:56):

I honestly, I’ll admit I’ve met people probably dozens if not hundreds of times through the work that we do. And I don’t know anybody’s names. I always just call him buddy, bro guy or nickname.

Sevan Matossian (07:09):

I understand that. But it’s the guy that bends over in front of your son seven days a week.

Hunter McIntyre (07:17):

It’s still understandable in my book. Even

Sevan Matossian (07:19):

If he wasn’t the head coach, I think he’d know the name of the guy who snaps the ball.

Hunter McIntyre (07:22):

Who’s this full body woman we’re about to watch?

Sevan Matossian (07:24):

Yeah, she’s great. She You

Andrew Hiller (07:25):

Don’t know who this is?

Hunter McIntyre (07:27):

I do. What are we trying to get at?

Sevan Matossian (07:30):

We’re just looking at her. We’re looking at the champ.

Hunter McIntyre (07:33):

Is she the champ?

Sevan Matossian (07:35):

Does she win CrossFit games? Yeah, she deserves it, dude.

Hunter McIntyre (07:38):

She’s been doing it for such a long time.

Sevan Matossian (07:41):


Hunter McIntyre (07:42):

She’s just a tank.

Andrew Hiller (07:47):

You think that she would’ve wont over there? Hunter, can you weigh in on that?

Hunter McIntyre (07:51):

If who was there

Andrew Hiller (07:53):

Tia to and me,

Hunter McIntyre (07:54):


Andrew Hiller (07:55):

Chance. She. Alright. So how do you feel about Tia competing at Rogue next month? Tia’s going to Whooper.

Hunter McIntyre (08:05):

I mean, the Russians used to get their wives, get women pregnant and neither have them abort them or just put them straight into competition afterwards. And the amount of hormones, and I’m not trying to say T did this at all intentionally, but that hormone response gives you so much extra juice that they would plan it right before Olympic cycle. So I’m assuming if she’s in shape and especially after birth, like this woman Lauren Weeks that competes at our world championship, won the world title as if her hair was on fire shortly thereafter having a child and she ran

Sevan Matossian (08:40):

Back. Answer. Is that speculation? Is that really true? It’s very true. Abortion thing. That’s true. Get pregnant, have a huge hormonal shift and run. I dunno

Andrew Hiller (08:49):

About the abortion part,

Hunter McIntyre (08:50):

But No, the abortion thing is true. Yeah, man, it’s pretty crazy. These people to them, they have PhDs in exercise science and then weightlifting and stuff, whereas most of the people who are coaches at the CrossFit games at a high level have nams and these Russians know what the heck they’re doing because they want the best results possible. So they would do stuff like that. And so the girl Lauren Weeks, who competes at our world championships, she competed pregnant last season and still did very, very well and then she had her child and shortly thereafter competed at World Championships this year and she beat the fucking pants off of the girl who held the world record, made her look like she was standing still. So I’m assuming if Tia wants it, just based on who she is and where she’s at in her life, she’ll fucking destroy Laura.

Andrew Hiller (09:42):

She’ll be better. She’s going to be stronger

Hunter McIntyre (09:45):

Also, you got to have to understand you’ve got, there’s a certain point where you have such mental clarity. You got so much other shit going on in your life, you fucking, you got no opportunity except for the crush.

Sevan Matossian (09:57):

Emma Wine’s, progesterone skyrockets in early pregnancy. It’s a hell of a hormone. Jan Clark it take a all

Hunter McIntyre (10:02):


Sevan Matossian (10:03):

All the time, man, I fucking love Hunter.

Hunter McIntyre (10:07):

I slept with that guy.

Sevan Matossian (10:10):

Hunter. McIntyre. Magdalene, Egbert. Oh, nice dress. Geez, never disappointment. Nineties porn vibe.

Hunter McIntyre (10:20):


Andrew Hiller (10:22):

You ever done porn

Hunter McIntyre (10:24):

On my own? iPhone? A lot.

Andrew Hiller (10:27):

I think everybody has.

Sevan Matossian (10:30):

Have you ever done porn on your phone? No. I’ve never filmed myself having sex. Someone warned me about six

Andrew Hiller (10:35):

Of us then.

Sevan Matossian (10:36):

Hey, you’ve propped your iPhone up and filmed you and a mate hooking up

Hunter McIntyre (10:45):

All the time. I think what’s really

Sevan Matossian (10:47):

Interesting though, what do you do with that? Aren’t you afraid someone’s going to see that?

Hunter McIntyre (10:51):

I mean, I think it’s hysterical, dude. I have my phone and I’m passing it around to people all the time. We’re always shooting content and they’ll stumble on it and it’s heavy duty, dude. I mean, it’s like Turkish oil wrestling in my bedroom. They have to watch the whole things.

Andrew Hiller (11:07):

That’s a great dick you got there, man. Yeah,

Hunter McIntyre (11:10):


Sevan Matossian (11:12):

Anything released? Anything we can see? Anything we could Google or watch?

Hunter McIntyre (11:17):

Yeah, 100%. I don’t want to start a fire across the internet, but I fucked up really bad when I was 20 and I didn’t know what I was doing when I was modeling and they told me shooting nude was cool and I ended up shooting nude. You shouldn’t bring this up on the screen for all the sakes. Do it privately all

Sevan Matossian (11:36):

Day today, all day today, all day

Hunter McIntyre (11:38):

Today, all day today. I’m a

Sevan Matossian (11:40):

Screen saver now I’m not

Hunter McIntyre (11:41):

Going to hear from you. You’re going to miss your podcast for three weeks straight because you’re just going to be looking at that picture.

Sevan Matossian (11:48):

My eyeballs are going to be Xs and my hands going to be wrapped in gauze.

Hunter McIntyre (11:53):

Yeah, dude. So I just never put myself in that position ever again. It ended up in the hands, like my grandfather right here is my ultimate

Sevan Matossian (12:01):

Hero. Is that your grandfather?

Hunter McIntyre (12:03):

It’s my grandfather and he ended up sitting me down and he was like, why did you do that? He was even

Sevan Matossian (12:10):

Angry. Just nudes hunter.

Hunter McIntyre (12:12):

It was just nudes. But I just

Sevan Matossian (12:14):

Want to see you have sex. I want to see you have sex.

Hunter McIntyre (12:16):

It was such a deep and painful moment for me. I will never fuck up like that

Andrew Hiller (12:21):

Again. Hey, what is your picture of your grandpa doing? Sitting right there with him standing number one of the podium.

Hunter McIntyre (12:27):

He’s my number one motivation. He’s the one who got me into sport, so I just always remind myself, I’m like, he’s the one who got me started. I got to finish this thing.

Sevan Matossian (12:34):

Put that closer. Let me see him. He’s a big dude.

Hunter McIntyre (12:36):

You talking about Grandpa Poop?

Sevan Matossian (12:38):

Yeah. You got the same haircut right now?

Andrew Hiller (12:39):

Yeah. You guys look like each other. That’s good. Grandpa

Hunter McIntyre (12:41):

Garrahan. Dude, this dude is a weapon.

Sevan Matossian (12:43):

What event did that? What did he win first in

Hunter McIntyre (12:46):

He was really good discus thrower. That was his best event, but he did the heptathlon where it’s you do shot, put weight, discus, javelin and hammer.

Andrew Hiller (12:58):

So he is a horse.

Hunter McIntyre (13:00):

Yeah, he was really good and he started, I mean he was such a legit dude. He probably could have been an Olympic contender back in the day if he had stayed focused on it. But he went to college and went to Johns Hopkins and then was on Harvard Medical School and then made sure that he had a career that would pay for everybody and then he went back to sports. He was the greatest person, the greatest influence I could ever have basically encountered in my entire life. He’s what got me on the path I’m on now, so I’m super lucky to have had him.

Sevan Matossian (13:30):

Hunter Dildo writes, Lauren Weeks is legit. I judge her in a competition at my gym. We shared a piece of gum and she’s the absolute real deal.

Hunter McIntyre (13:39):


Sevan Matossian (13:40):

I don’t know why it matters. He shared a piece of gum with her, but

Hunter McIntyre (13:43):

Someone wants me to turn off this lamp. She’s a weapon. I don’t know if this helps at all. I’m in a dark room now.

Sevan Matossian (13:52):

I don’t care. No, no. The other way is good it looks like.

Hunter McIntyre (13:55):

What about this? Do I look like

Sevan Matossian (13:58):

I like that.

Hunter McIntyre (13:58):

Now do I look like a pastor from a megachurch?

Sevan Matossian (14:01):

You’re from the seventies at that one. Fight

Hunter McIntyre (14:04):

All my disciples. I would love to speak more about the Lord, but I want you to Venmo me $500 right now so we can get the best message from Jesus in your lap today. Lemme tell you something, Jesus, don’t come for free, baby. My jet’s got to be fueled up. We’re hitting the tarmac and we’re going to Africa after this.

Andrew Hiller (14:24):

Are you the liver king?

Hunter McIntyre (14:25):

No, no, no. I’m

Sevan Matossian (14:27):

Pastor. Pastor Hunter. We’ve all slept with Hunter in our minds. The real Kevin, who is this guy? Hunter McIntyre. Thank you for coming on the podcast. Before we get started, can you tell us a little bit about yourself?

Hunter McIntyre (14:41):


Andrew Hiller (14:41):


Sevan Matossian (14:44):

Thank you for coming, hunter. I know you’re really busy. Congratulations on all your Can you tell us, go ahead. You do it.

Andrew Hiller (14:50):

CrossFit Games athlete. Porn star. He runs races and he wins them all and he is a pastor in Africa.

Hunter McIntyre (15:00):

Thank you.

Andrew Hiller (15:01):

It looks like him too, right?

Sevan Matossian (15:03):

You ever masturbate to your own porn that you film?

Hunter McIntyre (15:06):

A hundred percent.

Sevan Matossian (15:07):

Yeah. If I were to film it, that would be the only reason why. So it would be kind of like having one for later. I guess

Hunter McIntyre (15:15):

We got to understand, I will admit,

Sevan Matossian (15:18):

And then it’s not really masturbating the porn if it’s you, I think

Hunter McIntyre (15:21):

No, it’s just self-love. What you’re doing is just encouraging yourself to be a great guy. I think watching Porn’s got to be, I mean they’ve shown all these studies, it’s just messes you up. So I think if you can just keep it in-house, it’s pretty good

Andrew Hiller (15:37):


Sevan Matossian (15:42):

The Push Crusher, hunter, MacIntyre

Andrew Hiller (15:46):


Sevan Matossian (15:47):

Hey, did

Hunter McIntyre (15:47):

You know what’s funny? I was just licking at this morning. So

Sevan Matossian (15:51):

You were Nikki what? This morning I was

Hunter McIntyre (15:52):

Looking at this morning. For some reason, Matt Rife the most popular comedian in the world right now, popped up on my social media and I looked at him and you can always go and look and see the amount of engagement they have through the reels. And not too long ago I saw Danny Spiegel’s page and they’re almost one for one in the amount of likes that they get. So the biggest button, CrossFit and the funniest guy in the world right now are getting the same amount of attention and it’s insane to me and I think Danny’s an awesome chick, but go look at the engagement levels. This is the funniest man in the world currently.

Sevan Matossian (16:26):

Hey, do you know that the conversion rate for monetizing stuff for Instagram girls is the lowest and the conversion rate for comedians is the highest. Meaning if that guy shows you what kind of shoes he wears, more people buy those shoes than any other influencer. Whereas those hot chicks, when they say buy something, it’s just like

Hunter McIntyre (16:48):

I say this to marketing companies all the time. You’ve got three options. You can go the hero approach where you sponsor a, I dunno, like a Michael Jordan. You can go the ambassador approach where you try to get as many voices making noise noises possible, but it’s not going to necessarily be all valuable voices. Or you can just go the hot butt chick approach and she’ll probably get tons of views, but it’s going to be from dudes in Turkistan or to Z Stan and

Sevan Matossian (17:16):

You will get the name of your brand out there. It just doesn’t convert to buying shit. That’s a good point. We recently had a sponsor who has almost 10 CrossFit athletes that they sponsor basically say that this show sells more for them than those 10 athletes combined, but those 10 athletes probably do get the name out more.

Hunter McIntyre (17:34):

You’re the hero approach though because there’s this level of identity and actual true cult love towards you, c e o for life and basically the obsession that I think has much more valuable. If you have, how many people are watching this right now?

Sevan Matossian (17:54):

350 on

Hunter McIntyre (17:56):

YouTube. These are super fans. Now if all of a sudden there was a girl on a cam right now, there’d probably be like 300,000 people watching, but they’re not listening to anything that she’s saying.

Andrew Hiller (18:06):

Oh no, 300,000

Hunter McIntyre (18:10):

You could be, I wouldn’t doubt it. Let’s get goal. I bet right now if Spiegel had a live shot, she could probably generate that if she really wanted to. She’s a superhero. She’s

Andrew Hiller (18:20):

Probably, when you say if she really wanted to,

Hunter McIntyre (18:23):

I’m just saying if she really wanted to be on a live chat right now, I go on and check out Avon’s page and I was even looking at the Rogue Invitational, I would just go and look at all the marketing stuff because I’m obsessed with trying to figure out what’s getting the most impressions. Daniel Brandon’s post about her showing up to the Rogue Invitational trumped everybody else’s hits by a large amount

Sevan Matossian (18:49):

And I understand why.

Hunter McIntyre (18:51):

Well, it was because she’s a babe

Sevan Matossian (18:53):

And she talks, she talks, she does stuff. Fucking swagger babe. With swagger, dude, the swagger’s 50%. There’s crazy hot chicks in CrossFit who are at her level who just don’t have her swag. Her kind of like, yeah, right. The swag is 50%. Dude, don’t you think 51%? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying she’s not attractive, but

Hunter McIntyre (19:17):

Who’s the swaggiest person on the CrossFit games

Sevan Matossian (19:19):

Right now? Dude, you’re nobody without your swag. A guy without swag is nothing. It does not matter how good looking of a guy you are. If you don’t have swag, you are a fucking zero.

Hunter McIntyre (19:30):

But who’s got the biggest swag in the CrossFit games right now?

Sevan Matossian (19:34):

Daniel Brandon. Out of dude Adler. Adler’s starting to get a little swag. Adler’s got little bit.

Andrew Hiller (19:39):


Hunter McIntyre (19:41):


Sevan Matossian (19:42):

Is swag yet we can’t tell. But if it’s swag, it’s hardcore.

Hunter McIntyre (19:45):

Adler is milk toast. If he hadn’t won the CrossFit games, people wouldn’t be talking about him. Let’s just be honest.

Sevan Matossian (19:51):

It’s weird that he has swag too and that he’s so close with his wife that she’s on too. But who’s got

Hunter McIntyre (19:59):

Biggest swagger?

Andrew Hiller (20:00):

Colton? I’d say that’s minus swag point.

Sevan Matossian (20:02):

Colton’s got a little swag calling people bitches and Dummies on the podcast.

Hunter McIntyre (20:06):

Dude’s got a pig farm.

Sevan Matossian (20:07):

Yeah. Yeah. How

Andrew Hiller (20:09):

About Ricky? Ricky’s got a weird swag to him. Are you talking

Hunter McIntyre (20:12):

About Rad Ricky, the dude who just busted his shoulder up?

Sevan Matossian (20:15):

Yeah, Ricky got some swag,

Andrew Hiller (20:17):

He’s got some, he’s Ricky mna. I call Ricky name.

Hunter McIntyre (20:22):

I like Ricky.

Andrew Hiller (20:24):

I like Ricky a lot.

Hunter McIntyre (20:26):

Yeah, I’m hoping he puts together a good season, comes back and fights against the super Russian and then all of a sudden we got this battle fucking like a wild prisoner camp Australian guy, and then some kind of super spy Russian and we’re like, they’re fighting in America for some reason and everybody else is trying to compete. And you’ve got a Canadian dude, Jeffrey Adler, who’s trying to compete, but he’s not a super soldier or a prisoner of war man. It’s going to be a total wild battle.

Andrew Hiller (20:54):

And none of them are from America fighting. None of them are from America. They’re fighting in America.

Hunter McIntyre (20:59):

That’s what I’m saying. That’s what I’m saying. We’re good. We’re good at grabbing entertainment.

Sevan Matossian (21:04):

Isn’t Malibu kind of the porn or used to be the porn capital 20 years ago of the world before the internet? I

Hunter McIntyre (21:10):

Will tell you a funny story. It still is. My friend has this baller ass mansion and a girl that I was seeing would stay at the house at nighttime and during the day she wasn’t allowed to be there because, and she didn’t understand why and one day she had to go back and go get some stuff and they were just filming porn there and they were filming porn there all the time. And I think supposedly there’s rules to it, but people will just have big ass mansions and Airbnb them out and rent them for shoots and then basically bleach and burn everything and then rent it out the next day.

Sevan Matossian (21:48):

It’s kind of a weird caveat that you can, it’s prostitution, but if you film it, it’s porn.

Hunter McIntyre (21:56):

That is weird. It’s all based on one degree. In one word. If ever a red light’s on,

Sevan Matossian (22:04):

I’d let Hunter touch my butt,

Hunter McIntyre (22:05):

Would you date a porn star?

Andrew Hiller (22:10):

Oh yes, you would. Have you not?

Hunter McIntyre (22:13):

I have.

Andrew Hiller (22:15):

There you go.

Hunter McIntyre (22:16):

I think it’s not important to share details on that, but I will say there’s this new thing where all of a sudden porn stars are starting to become really famous. They are getting on these big podcasts and celebrities are starting to date them. It’s weird because if you think based on the metrics of the people who’ve been viewed the most, it’s porn stars way over movie stars.

Andrew Hiller (22:42):

Why wouldn’t you date one? You asked that with the connotation that you wouldn’t want to.

Hunter McIntyre (22:47):

It’s not a judgment thing by any means. I think there’s just probably There’s certain,

Sevan Matossian (22:52):

Because you don’t find it attractive that someone’s had sex with a hundred guys last month.

Andrew Hiller (22:57):

Not last month, last year, yesterday. Yesterday, yesterday, yesterday.

Sevan Matossian (23:05):


Andrew Hiller (23:05):

You’re saying you wouldn’t do it lon?

Sevan Matossian (23:09):

I mean if I didn’t know it could happen, I mean not important. It could happen. I just don’t find it as a, don’t find a selling point.

Hunter McIntyre (23:20):

I will admit my dating range is almost entirely pushed over to European and UK chicks and the way that they act, the way that they present themselves is so different and so refreshing and it’s more proper and feminine that I’ve changed my views on dating.

Sevan Matossian (23:36):

I find filthy rich girls, very attractive, filthy rich like Oprah.

Hunter McIntyre (23:42):


Sevan Matossian (23:42):

Rich. Yeah, Oprah.

Hunter McIntyre (23:44):

Dude, I’ve been trying to date Oprah for years. I drop that line all the time. I’ll just tag Oprah and Instagram all the time. Whenever I have a good looking picture, I’m just like, Oprah, you know what’s up?

Sevan Matossian (23:55):

Hey, yeah, why wouldn’t she sample you? Why wouldn’t she reach out to you and be like, hunter, come over to my house and let me just roll around with you. I’m fucking 80

Hunter McIntyre (24:07):

Helicopter man.

Sevan Matossian (24:12):

Just like, I dunno. Hey, when you see these guys like Jeff Bezos has a wife, long time wife knew ’em before he was rich. He gets filthy rich. He ends up divorcing her and his wife looks like just like a normal woman, but his new chick looks like a porn actress, right? Big lips, big tits, big. Everything’s all the collagen and looks like the joker. And do you think that they’re happier? Do you think that they get, or do you think that they’re like, fuck, I should have just toughed it out in this other relationship?

Hunter McIntyre (24:46):

I think what ends up happening is you have this level of this is what you want and this is what you think is great, and then all of a sudden that gets fractured and there’s a breakup and a moment, and then all of a sudden all of your deepest, darkest thoughts that have been in the behind layers and layers and layers of you, they’ve been suppressing for years just boils up to the surface and you just go towards it like a magnet in a billion miles an hour. And then by the time you get that post nut clarity, you’re already engaged to the woman.

Sevan Matossian (25:18):


Hunter McIntyre (25:18):

I’m trying say I follow.

Sevan Matossian (25:20):

Yeah, because I can go sit in a Starbucks in San Diego in Del Mar and see older guys with trophy wives, what I would call trophy wives. I apologize. I sincerely mean, I apologize if that’s offensive. I normally don’t do that. But women who are 20 years younger than them with tons of plastic surgery and I’m just like, okay, I just picture the same story in my head over and over somewhere and he’s like to sleep with this girl or to feel her titties or is somehow going to be better than what a relationship I had with my ex. I don’t know, maybe. I dunno. I just can’t imagine. Do you like younger percentage? All my friends who’s dated younger girls says, dude, it’s fucking way overrated. Like my friends who are 40 who’ve dated 20 year olds. It’s like, dude, what a disaster. No, it’s not overrated.

Hunter McIntyre (26:12):

It’s the best thing ever.

Sevan Matossian (26:14):

It is. Okay.

Hunter McIntyre (26:15):

It’s the best thing ever. I’ll tell you right now. So

Sevan Matossian (26:18):

How old are you?

Hunter McIntyre (26:20):

I’m 34. So I’ve got this.

Sevan Matossian (26:21):

What? What’s the youngest you’ve dated is 34. You’ve been with a 22 year old.

Hunter McIntyre (26:26):

Yeah, for sure. 21. But the thing is, all of a sudden you get into these conversations with these girls and some people are going to hear this and they’re going to flip the fuck out, but this is my field science, not your fucking field science. So you go out there and you go and talk to these chicks and then all of a sudden you’re just collecting all this data and you’ve got a spreadsheet in your brain and you just start to recognize towards the late twenties and early thirties that these girls have this level of anxiety and damage that they bring with them into a relationship that the young girls don’t have. Those girls that have reached that certain point, they’ve gone through X amount of boyfriends, a couple bad breakups, they’re getting closer towards the point where they need to have children. These anxieties and fears are really up near the surface.


Those younger girls just have this free flow spirit where there’s no fear and anxiety around them and you just sit with them and it’s so relaxing. I sit here, dude, and you guys have no clue. Immediately after I’m done with you guys, I go through bills and then as soon as I’m done with that, I go through my calendar and as soon as I’m done with you guys, I’m on a flight at 4:00 AM tomorrow going to New York City and the next week to Seattle. And I don’t want somebody coming to me with problems. Not that I don’t want to help them out by any means, but if you’re coming into this situation with fear, you’re fucked. And I’ll admit is

Sevan Matossian (27:51):

You like a girl who just graduated from college who’s 22 years old, who’s in that one year of her life where she’s like, fuck, I’m free. That’s a nice, yeah, I’m free. I’m exploring. I got a backpack, I work out. I’m cool. Yeah. What’s awesome about it? God, that sounds great. Fuck. I don’t got no pushback.

Hunter McIntyre (28:12):

Listen, I’m not looking at these people as in the fence sense that if I met a girl my age and she was fantastic, I would value you the same way that I was somebody else who was 24. But I will say that I’ve just noticed this and you just don’t want to be in that position. I’m the most financially strong and successful I’ve ever been in my entire life. And as a man, it’s kind of like this just brick building thing. It’s kind of in the reverse for girls where you come right out of college and you bump into a guy like me, I’m like, you’re my golden goose. Vice versa. A girl gets out of college and they bump into a guy like me. They’re like, you’re my golden goose. You’ve got your shit together. You have your shit together. Dude, if you met me at 24, I had just left New York City and I was living in Colorado in my buddy’s garage, and we were training for obstacle racing world championships. We had no money to our name. We had no, we just had dreams and spastic ideas. Now got a place in Malibu, three cars, whatever the fuck I want to do, I go

Sevan Matossian (29:20):

The mountain, get away, vacation home.

Hunter McIntyre (29:23):

You just see that person. You’re like, wow, this is awesome. This is something I can work with. Back then, dude, if you met me at 24, I was a hand grenade without a pen. I was trouble.

Sevan Matossian (29:32):

Well, also along the lines of a woman, you meet a 20 year old Jewish woman and she wants to marry a 25 year old Jewish man who has a bunch of money. Flash forward and you meet a 35 year old Jewish woman and she’ll be more than happy, who’s six feet tall, meet a 35 year old Jewish woman, she’s more than happy to. Dave, a five foot five Armenian man who’s homeless just as long as he has a penis. I mean also age will change your change.

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