#1011 – Haley Adams – What’s Next?

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Spam. We’re live. Good morning. And Kelly, good morning. Good morning, Savon. Good morning. Good morning, coach. Ken. Good morning, rambler. Good morning, Jessica Valenzuela. Good morning, blink. Good morning, Heidi. Hey, Hindle Decker. Yo. What’s up dude, this morning we got Haley Adams coming on, which I’m pretty stoked on. Very stoked, more than stoked. Excited. Looking forward to it. I wonder if she’s competing this year. What’s she doing? What has she been doing? What happened? How’s her dog? Oh, there she is.

Haley Adams (00:58):

Can you hear me?

Sevan Matossian (00:59):


Haley Adams (00:59):

Oh, cool.

Sevan Matossian (01:01):

Hey, what’s up? How are you?

Haley Adams (01:02):

Great. Just had a big breakfast and play with my dog for a little bit. And yeah.

Sevan Matossian (01:08):

How is the dog?

Haley Adams (01:09):

Oh, he’s very crazy actually. His breed is just so energetic and yeah, he’s a handful, but he’s been really good for me.

Sevan Matossian (01:19):

Do you have help taking care of him, Haley?

Haley Adams (01:21):

When I’m in Tennessee, I don’t, it’s just me. But when I’m here in North Carolina and I have my mom and my friends and stuff, then yeah.

Sevan Matossian (01:32):

When you’re in Tennessee and he’s there, are you obsessive about it or does he come with you to the gym?

Haley Adams (01:37):

No, just because he loves people so much that he just wants to see everyone and just gets so excited. So it’s just easier to keep him at home. But sometimes I bring him to the gym here, there’s not as much going on, but yeah, he’s crazy.

Sevan Matossian (01:53):

And when you say gym here, where’s that

Haley Adams (01:55):

In Lexington, North Carolina.

Sevan Matossian (01:58):

And that’s home. That’s where mom and dad are?

Haley Adams (01:59):


Sevan Matossian (02:03):

What is that a, what kind of dog is at

Haley Adams (02:07):

In Australian Shepherd?

Sevan Matossian (02:09):

Are those the ones that nip at your heel? They’re herding dogs. They kind of nip at you?

Haley Adams (02:14):

Yeah, he did that when he was a puppy. If we were outside playing on the fence and someone would kind of run off, he’d run and nip at their heels. But he doesn’t do that anymore.

Sevan Matossian (02:23):

He’s He’s not a working dog anymore?

Haley Adams (02:26):

No. He’s a well-fed dog that likes to play fetch.

Sevan Matossian (02:31):

Are you obsessed with him? If you’re working out, are you like, oh shit, I got to get home and take him out, or he needs to potty? Or are you always like, yes.

Haley Adams (02:38):

Every time I leave him, I feel so bad. He just waits for me to come home. He’s kind super attached, so I just feel bad, but I try not to leave him for super long.

Sevan Matossian (02:51):

That was actually a loaded question. I was deciding whether you’re going to be a mom or not, and then you’re going to be a mom. That’s the way my wife was for 10 years with our And can you tell by the way he walks around the room like, yep, he’s got to go pee, or Oh, he’s got to go poo. Or you just have the eye for that?

Haley Adams (03:07):

He kind of makes a noise like a bark. That’s different when he has to go out or he’ll go stand by the door. So we got that down pat.

Sevan Matossian (03:16):

Is he past the chewing stage?

Haley Adams (03:19):

He’s passed, I guess chewing things up, but only if he has his chew toys. So if he doesn’t have his chew toys, then he will go grab something. But for the most part, yes.

Sevan Matossian (03:32):

Lost anything crazy yet. Come home in your best pair of shoes or toast or a whole cushion on the couch is missing. You’re like, what the

Haley Adams (03:39):

Nothing on the couch yet. I’ve definitely lost some shoes. I think that’s about it. Oh, one time he chewed up a phone charger and I was really scared because of if he ate some of it, but thankfully he didn’t. He also chewed up my TV remote. All the remote. The buttons don’t work, but yeah, that’s it.

Sevan Matossian (04:01):

Another sign that you’re going to end up being a mom. If my dog chews my charger, he gets a spanking. I’m pissed that I got it. But you are worried about the dog? Yeah,

Haley Adams (04:10):

I was just worried about him. I don’t think he’s supposed to be swallowing that stuff. You

Sevan Matossian (04:15):

Don’t spank him, do you?

Haley Adams (04:17):

Not really. Very rarely. I wasn’t sure what to do when he was a puppy, if I was supposed to spank him. And the few times that I popped him, it didn’t really do anything. So he listens better when I raised my voice a little bit.

Sevan Matossian (04:31):

God, you’re a good dude.

Haley Adams (04:34):

I have three animals. So

Sevan Matossian (04:38):

I know you specifically through watching you do CrossFit, crazy shit. And specifically the events I’ve loved watching you do or running events like that, especially those kind of shorter ones like that. I don’t remember the event, but the event where you guys would run and then you would have a minute or whatever to put that 185 pounds or 225 pounds over your head. And when we got to see you run across the field, it was like ballet. It was so cool. Thanks.


And people have learned to love you for it because people love sports and people love watching their, they love good movers. They love beautiful people and they love winners, right? This whole, it’s been like that forever. And you kind of check a lot of those boxes and young and new and getting better and they get to take the whole journey with you. And you did the 2022 CrossFit games, which arguably one of the hardest events an athlete could do that year in any discipline. And then you took 2023 off and what a crazy year. Well, yeah. Okay, before we get to you, what a crazy year. You mal Tia. I’m probably forgetting someone.

Haley Adams (06:03):

Yeah, I don’t remember either. Definitely quite a few people are gone.

Sevan Matossian (06:06):

What a wild year. Before we get to the sensitive stuff, let’s ask some really insensitive things. As I’m known for was a party. Maybe I should just suck it up and be like, yo, mal and Tia gone.

Haley Adams (06:19):

Oh no. Well, I mean my decision was made way before theirs.

Sevan Matossian (06:26):

Gotcha. Alright.

Haley Adams (06:27):

Earlier in the year.

Sevan Matossian (06:28):

How about a comeback when you saw Mal wasn’t there? You’re like, wait a second. Absolutely not. I’ll just take four Xanax and just get back in the game. I’m just going to take a bunch of drugs and numb the pain. I’m going to start drinking. No,

Haley Adams (06:41):

I’m so satisfied in my life at that point that I had absolutely no desire to be like, I want to go do that now. And also anyone else is not my sole purpose for doing this.

Sevan Matossian (06:53):

What’s not your sole purpose for doing this?

Haley Adams (06:56):

If someone else isn’t there to go win? I feel like that would defeat the whole point of taking a year off for myself if I’m going to do it because someone else isn’t there.

Sevan Matossian (07:06):

Did you watch the games this year?

Haley Adams (07:10):

Not really. It was playing at a gym in California that I was at, so we were watching the last day. But other than that, I didn’t really watch it. No.

Sevan Matossian (07:22):

All right. Don’t get weird, dude. I can’t help it. Geez, se you’re lucky. She’s a good sport. I know. Everyone comes on the show is a good sport. Haley Adams is especially a good sport. Are you training for the 2024 CrossFit games?

Haley Adams (07:44):

I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (07:45):

You don’t know? Don’t know. Or you don’t want to say yet?

Haley Adams (07:55):

This put me on the spot.

Sevan Matossian (07:57):

That’s why I brought you here, Hailey. That’s why I brought you. I

Haley Adams (08:00):

Know, I know.

Sevan Matossian (08:01):

Put you on the spot.

Haley Adams (08:03):

I know. Well guess we’ll have to

Sevan Matossian (08:06):

See. I know. We will have to see. It’s exciting. People want you to compete and I think for, there’s this weird thing going on, right? People, obviously, everyone wants everyone to be healthy and happy and enjoy life. But then on the other hand, people like you for what you do. People like Adele because she got a great voice and because she sings well. And some people will be like, well, on one hand for yourself, you have to be like, Hey, I’m more than that. But on the other hand, it’s nice that people love you or appreciate you for your athletic ability. I feel like people try to poo poh that it’s just all about who you are and people should like me for who I am. No, actually, it’s nice having a friend who’s crazy, athletic, beautiful, or it’s nice having a friend who’s rich or there’s other qualities. It doesn’t make you a bad person because you like someone because they’re rich as fuck. I don’t think. Or because they can dunk a ball. If Michael Jordan was a dick and you liked them still, I think that’s fine. He was a great basketball player.

Haley Adams (09:16):

I mean, I try to be a good person.

Sevan Matossian (09:19):

You are. I didn’t mean you were a dick

Haley Adams (09:20):

Athletic, but I try to have good qualities as a person on and off the field. So yeah, I just try to carry that or I don’t know. I mean, I think people like me for who I’m something that I definitely struggle with was feeling that was the only reason why someone wanted to be my friend or would want to date me or whatever was because of what I did. But I think I’ve proved myself wrong, especially this year when I got so much praise or just shown so much love for taking the year off. I was like, oh wait, people actually like me for me too,

Sevan Matossian (10:00):

For both.

Haley Adams (10:02):


Sevan Matossian (10:07):

But it makes sense to you why people would be attracted to you for these other reasons.

Haley Adams (10:11):

It does, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (10:12):

Of your hard work, your performance, you’re on their phones, you’re on their tv. I mean, that makes sense, right?

Haley Adams (10:17):

Yeah. I mean, I’m not naive to that and I’ll gladly take ownership for how hard I’ve worked and the things I’ve accomplished, but I also don’t want it to just be everything about me.

Sevan Matossian (10:31):

Or maybe there’s circles and it goes the other way too. There’s probably people who don’t like you, but if they got to know you, they would love you, right? There’s people from far away like, fuck her, she’s a bitch. But for sure if you were in an elevator, stuck in an elevator with them, they’d be like, oh my God, Haley’s cool as shit. What was I thinking? It goes both ways.

Haley Adams (10:49):

Oh, absolutely. There’s lots of that. Lots and lots and lots of that. But yeah, I’m like, if people don’t know me, then they can’t really, I mean, I guess they can’t hate on me, but if you don’t know me then you don’t really know me.

Sevan Matossian (11:05):

How old are you now?

Haley Adams (11:06):


Sevan Matossian (11:08):

22. So when you made the decision to take the 22 crazy, I was wondering if I had a pair of nanos older than that. When you decided to take the year off, you were 21.

Haley Adams (11:25):

It was early this year, so I had just turned 22 because my birthday is in December.

Sevan Matossian (11:32):

And do you think it’s a correct characterization that the year off, you decided to take the year off?

Haley Adams (11:41):

That I decided for myself,

Sevan Matossian (11:43):

Yeah, that it was a decision. You open the fridge and there’s cantaloupe and watermelon, you’re like going with cantaloupe, and you made that decision. It was you who made the decision. I’m

Haley Adams (11:53):

A hundred percent me. I was the one that had the idea, even brought it up to the people around me. It was a hundred percent my idea.

Sevan Matossian (12:03):

And can you tell me the buildup to that idea you made the decision in?

Haley Adams (12:11):

It was in January, February.

Sevan Matossian (12:13):

January? Yeah.

Haley Adams (12:14):

Okay. I just was the whole off season. I mean that whole entire year basically even lean up to the games. I was just so unhappy and quite honestly miserable. I was punished myself in the gym. I wasn’t enjoying it. And I know it’s not enjoyable all the time. I’m not dumb, but it was just to a different level that I hadn’t experienced before. It felt like so much of a chore and just getting out of bed and knowing that I had to do it was just weighing me down so much. And then in the off season, it just got worse because in my head I played so badly at the games that I had to somehow crush myself and get better at the things that I was bad at. And it just was a full circle, and I kept just breaking down all the time and I just felt so burned out.


Going to the gym was just, it was not good. My body was hurting so badly. And then in December, around my birthday, I had a really big breakdown and I was like, I just don’t know how I can keep going this. This is the worst it’s ever been. I feel so burned out. How am I supposed to do better than next year when I can’t even want to be in the gym? And my mental health wasn’t good. So I just battled with that for a few weeks and I was just like, why can’t you just suck it up or just have motivation or be better? I just was fighting myself in the opposite way. So that was not helping. And then literally one day I just woke up and I was like, I could just take the year off. And once I thought of that, it almost felt like I was relieved of pressure immediately. Obviously I undecided, but just knowing that I had that option.

Sevan Matossian (13:53):

So even before you took the year off, just knowing you had the option, took a little pressure off when you have to go to the bathroom really bad and you finally pull up in the driveway, you’re like, oh, I’m going to make it.

Haley Adams (14:02):

But the thought of having to go compete and somehow prove myself again or try to get a certain position or whatever felt crippling. I was like, I don’t know how I’m going to do that. Last year I was miserable and I was even more miserable at this point. So just having that option gave me hope. And honestly I was like, it will probably help me and add on years to my career, because I’ve been going at this for so long. I was going,

Sevan Matossian (14:32):

You are competing this year. Did you just say that?

Haley Adams (14:34):

No, I didn’t say that. Alright,

Sevan Matossian (14:36):


Haley Adams (14:37):

But I’m just saying it physically and mentally would add on years to my career, a ton of people got 2020 off. I did not. And some of the people that were there aren’t competing anymore or had a year off during that time. So I was like, I mean, I’ve been going nonstop for a long time with no break. So I’m like, it’s honestly okay to just take a little break and maybe prolong my career, help my body heal and my mind and yeah.

Sevan Matossian (15:10):

You said that you would have trouble getting up in the morning to go to the gym and train once you started training. Did that go away?

Haley Adams (15:18):

No, I had multiple breakdowns. Every piece I did was just a struggle to get through it. It was such a dark time and I don’t even know what I would tell myself now to get through it, but it was just hard to get anything done because I was just so mentally out of it that, and I was fighting myself too. Why can’t you just do this? Or someone else is getting better than you? So I was just constantly nonstop in my head.

Sevan Matossian (15:46):

Judy Reed chimes in here. Emma Carey took a year off with her injury and she came back strong this year.

Haley Adams (15:53):


Sevan Matossian (15:57):

When I saw you take the year off, I started thinking to myself, well, I didn’t think of the physical part, but I just thought, yeah, I think that every healthy person between the age of 18 and 25 should have some sort of identity crisis and spiritual breakdown. I know I did. And basically I just took off. I just hit the road. I just let myself become homeless for two years and just soul searched and just read books. Because for me, it wasn’t that I, you’re saying all you did was gains, but for me, I went to school from kindergarten to high school and then to college, and then finally one day you’re like, what the fuck am I doing? And for me, it kind of got so, I don’t want to say so dark, but I was wanting to give up on life. I wasn’t suicidal. I wanted to kill myself, but I was done.

Haley Adams (16:55):

Yeah. It’s like what do you have to live for? You have nothing feels like, yeah, this is everything. What do I have now?

Sevan Matossian (17:04):

Yeah. Is that how it was kind for you? You were ready just to surrender? Hey, if I get struck by lightning, so be it.

Haley Adams (17:10):

Yeah. It’s not funny, but I felt so hopeless that this was all I had and that people would only like me or only liked me because I CrossFit or my family wouldn’t care about me or just made up all the stuff in my head that because this has been my life. I have known nothing else. I’ve done nothing else. I didn’t have a life outside of this, nothing. So in my head I’m like, I don’t even know who I am outside of this, so what do I do?

Sevan Matossian (17:41):

It’s interesting you say that. I watched your interview with Bryce Smith and I’m like, wow. Haley’s quite talkative in that relative to when I interviewed her. And I think the reason why you just nailed it. You have something to talk about now?

Haley Adams (17:59):

Yeah, I have a

Sevan Matossian (18:00):

Letter. You went on a journey, like internal journey outside. You went on a intense journey.

Haley Adams (18:06):

It was very Inc. Intense, and it was the farthest thing from easy, especially at the beginning. But I feel like I know who I am now and my values and I have a life now, which is really cool. And yeah, it’s been a really interesting year, to say the least. But I am very proud of what I did this year. Andm excited for the future.

Sevan Matossian (18:31):

If I heard correctly, this started also in 2021. You’re training for the 2021 games you were already, you could see something was not a hundred percent

Haley Adams (18:43):

Right, because like I said, from the year before I games trained from, I don’t even remember when it started, but it went all the way to the end of October, which was way longer than it ever had been before. And then here I got to go again and turn around and get ready for the open way sooner than I had before. So even from that and then on having all the pressure to try and get on a podium because I just had placed fourth, it really started to weigh on me where it’s like, hmm, this isn’t really fun anymore. It’s more of like, I have to do this or you suck.

Sevan Matossian (19:16):

You took fourth and then you took ninth in 2022, and that’s what you’re saying that I got

Haley Adams (19:21):

Fourth and then 20, 21 I got fifth. And then in 2022 I got ninth, which was to me the worst thing in the world.

Sevan Matossian (19:34):

Complete failure. Yeah. It’s funny, I never heard anyone, for what it’s worth, ever think that you were doing anything besides getting better? Of course, there’s always that chatter. Every athlete, there’s like, Haley needs to be stronger, Laura needs to be better, or handstand, pushup. So-and-so needs to learn how to run. I mean, there’s all these things, but what, say it again.

Haley Adams (19:56):

Always something.

Sevan Matossian (19:57):

Yeah, but I think that everyone from the outside, I’ve never saw your stock wane from the outside, which is, but that doesn’t matter if you’re having that internal talk on the inside. So how did it, as you approached that February. So February, had the open started yet when you decided you weren’t going to do the season?

Haley Adams (20:26):

No, I decided late in January, I was at Disney World in the Open.

Sevan Matossian (20:31):

Oh, okay. I think I remember seeing pictures of that. Yeah.

Haley Adams (20:35):


Sevan Matossian (20:36):

Okay. So when you, as you’re building up to that, not doing it, why say anything? Why not just do it? Why make a post about it?

Haley Adams (20:50):

Because I battled for a bit going back and forth whether I wanted to share or not. But then I sat and thought about it for a while and I was like, if I could just help one person get the courage to just take care of themself or get help or just something, and I just wanted to be the person that I really needed during a time like that. So that was kind of my main factor for wanting to share. And it was very, very hard to write that caption and just think of the right things to say, but that was my motive for wanting to share in hopes that I could help another girl or someone.

Sevan Matossian (21:33):

It’s interesting. I don’t know why, but when you said it the first way, and it’s the way you said it in the Bryce thing, I was having trouble processing it when you said, Hey, if I could just help one person, when I hear that, for some reason I go to, I don’t know. I just don’t like that phrase for some reason, which one? But just like if I could just help one person for some reason that doesn’t resonate with me. But the way you said it just now, I get it. I get it. You want it to be the person that you would need in that moment.

Haley Adams (22:02):

Exactly. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (22:03):

Yeah. Now I get it. Okay, now I get it. Sometimes it takes a special way to be said to me because I’m special.

Haley Adams (22:09):

You never know who around you is hurting. If you just looked at me, I just worked out all the time, and you would never know that I was just fighting internally so hard. So you never know what someone’s going through, even if they have a smile on their face all the time or whatever. So if it just gave the courage of one person just to know that it’s going to be okay or just give them hope, then that’s what I wanted to do.

Sevan Matossian (22:32):

And so you post that and at this point, has Mal pulled out yet?

Haley Adams (22:38):

Oh, no, I

Sevan Matossian (22:39):

Don’t. She has not.

Haley Adams (22:40):

That was around. Yeah, so no.

Sevan Matossian (22:43):

Wow. Do you think you influenced her decision?

Haley Adams (22:47):

I don’t want to say I influenced her decision, no. I think that definitely comes from within, especially how high up we are. And basically this was our life, so I don’t think anyone could have influenced my decision. So I definitely think that was all her. But yeah.

Sevan Matossian (23:03):

When you made the decision, was it cut and dry?

Haley Adams (23:09):

I knew exactly what I wanted to do.

Sevan Matossian (23:11):

Yeah. You knew? Or was it like,

Haley Adams (23:14):

Well, I think I was

Sevan Matossian (23:15):

It, I guess, was it really scary to pull out?

Haley Adams (23:18):

Oh, it was really scary. I think I knew in my heart that’s what I wanted to do as soon as I started to think of it. But the struggle for me was telling people, telling my family or rich or Bijan or my agent. I think that was the next hardest thing for me to not sound like I was like a hundred percent going to take the year off, but just mention it to them and see how they would react. Because of course, I’m terrified of disappointing anyone, so I didn’t want anyone to freak out. But no, once they all seemed okay and they were like, yeah, that could totally help, or that definitely helps make my decision more permanent.

Sevan Matossian (23:56):

So physically not wanting to get up and go when you do go have breakdowns is a breakdown. You just start after a workouts, you’re crying or you’re running to the bathroom or, yeah,

Haley Adams (24:05):

The thing about me is I don’t really cry. I’ve always been a let’s try to save our tears for the pillow. So if I am crying, it’s bad, and I was crying probably most every day.

Sevan Matossian (24:18):


Haley Adams (24:18):

Yeah. I don’t cry much.

Sevan Matossian (24:23):

And literally there just in the barn, you get off the assault bike and you start crying. Well,

Haley Adams (24:29):

I stayed at home during that whole time from December to January just so I could be with my mom and my dad, and I just felt I was staying with people here. It was nice to have company. I didn’t want to be alone. So it was with my family.

Sevan Matossian (24:47):

And as you’re starting to, these ideas are percolating, I’m guessing it built up about pulling out. Did you start running the idea by people? Did you have anyone to run it by?

Haley Adams (24:57):

Well, I started mentioning it to my family and rich and my agent and stuff. And once I felt like they were not going to freak out or be like, no, that’s a bad choice, blah, blah, blah, and that they actually just cared about me and how I’m doing and make sure I’m okay, then I was like, wait, I can do this.

Sevan Matossian (25:18):

Did anyone say to you, Haley, what the fuck? Suck it up, do the game. No, no one said that

Haley Adams (25:24):

Anyone that actually caress about me or knows anything about me would know that that was the best thing for me to do. Because anyone that says something like that obviously has no idea what’s going on on the inside. And they don’t know my story. They don’t know anything about me. So it’s super easy to say that and say, suck it up. But if you don’t actually know what’s going on with someone, then it’s not cool to say that.

Sevan Matossian (25:49):

But it’s not cool to say that. But you did say it to yourself a little bit, right? You tried it on yourself all

Haley Adams (25:57):

The time. But if someone else, if my parents or anyone said that to me, I would’ve been crushed, absolutely crushed. I probably would’ve tried to suck it up because the fear of disappointing someone else. But anyone that, again, anyone that knows me and caress about me and that I even value their opinion would never say that They know that’s not the best thing for me.

Sevan Matossian (26:21):

And what you said right there about pleasing other people, that’s also what, and I don’t regret this at all. I actually think it was healthy. That is also the way my upbringing was. I was brought up to, I wanted to please my parents, and I think that that’s normal and healthy, but I also think that that’s part of that 18 to 25 years old. When you go through an identity crisis, you kind of make the break from your parents, you become an adult. But do you think it’s okay that you went through that? Do you think it was okay that you were in that state of mind, but the same way if you’re a butterfly, it’s okay that you’re a caterpillar at some point?

Haley Adams (26:57):

Yeah, absolutely. I think it’s taught me so much. It’s brought me to this point in my life now. And also I feel like if I ever start to feel like that again, I kind of have the tools to make sure it doesn’t get so severe again, or just, yeah, I just think that a lot of beautiful things have come from it, and I think I’m glad it happened.

Sevan Matossian (27:22):

What tools did you go to? A therapist?

Haley Adams (27:25):

Yeah, I did do therapy for a bit, but also just if I feel panicky or even in the gym, if I’m feeling like I need to do 1500 workouts to feel better about myself, just being like, no, it’s okay. You don’t have to do that. So just little thoughts that come that I feel like I know how to deal with better and control it because it doesn’t just go away. I still deal with things on a daily basis that are like, I need to not eat this, or I need to go run 10 miles or this or that. And I’m like, actually, no, you don’t. Okay. So just learning how to deal with that stuff.

Sevan Matossian (28:01):

The thing with exercise is crazy. I think probably so many of us, I’ll totally do that. I won’t feel good and I’ll just go straight to the garage, my go-to start sweating, I don’t feel good. Start sweating. And

Haley Adams (28:15):

That’s the thing that it was hard to explain to a lot of people. Everyone knows I did crazy volume. It’s not a secret and whatever, but the thing that people didn’t understand was that was my escape. As soon as I stopped working out, all of the thoughts come in. I like, you’re not doing enough. Someone’s getting better than you. I’m going to be good enough. So I’m like, that was my only safe place, was just constantly working out. I didn’t have to think about anything. So that’s why it seemed so crazy to everyone. I’m doing so many workouts, but it was really just saving me at that point, even though it was hurting me too. But

Sevan Matossian (28:52):

Did someone say to you, Hey, here are some tools. Was it specific that someone was like, Hey, here are some tools when you feel like, hey, when you’re down on yourself for what you’re eating or when?

Haley Adams (29:07):

Yeah, I mean, I feel like just learning how to deal with those thoughts and how to process them. And they’re not always real. And I’ve also thought like this for five years, so it’s not just going to go away, but learning where they can come from or what triggers it. And yeah.

Sevan Matossian (29:26):

Is there anything practical you do? Like, okay, I’m feeling this way. I’m set my watch on my iPhone for one minute, and I sit with my back to a wall, or I sit with my legs up. My wife does this thing where she lays on her back and puts her butt on the wall and her feet up and she sets a timer and she’ll just start focusing on her breath. Do you have anything specific you do?

Haley Adams (29:47):

Sounds kind of silly, but since I’ve isolated myself so much the last few years and always just wanted to be alone because I thought that’s what was best. But when I start to feel kind of down or whatever, I just want to be around someone.

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