Sevan Matossian (00:05):
Bam. We’re live. Yeah. Last night’s show was crazy.
Caleb Beaver (00:10):
Got a little off the rails.
Sevan Matossian (00:11):
Yeah, it was hectic. I don’t think it was bad. It was just burning experience.
Caleb Beaver (00:22):
A lot of cooks in the kitchen on that one.
Sevan Matossian (00:24):
Yeah. Yeah. I did enjoy helping and the thumb going back and forth. I don’t remember what the subject was.
Caleb Beaver (00:38):
They were talking about the pro cards. Yeah. It was just vastly different opinions on it.
Sevan Matossian (00:43):
Yeah. But they both could explain themselves pretty well, I thought. What did you think? No. You don’t think the thumb explained himself well or helping? You can’t hear me.
Caleb Beaver (01:01):
Oh, sorry. My internet cut out.
Sevan Matossian (01:03):
Oh, I couldn’t even tell on this side. You were still there.
Caleb Beaver (01:07):
Sevan Matossian (01:11):
Good morning everyone. Christine Young. Good morning, Steven Flores. Good morning, David Arsenalt. Good morning, Olivia. Good morning. Are you watching the fights tonight, Caleb?
Caleb Beaver (01:19):
Yeah, I’ll probably try to.
Sevan Matossian (01:21):
Caleb Beaver (01:21):
Too. What time do they start?
Sevan Matossian (01:24):
7:00 PM Pacific. Standard Time Pacific. I thought it was going to be some fucked up hour because I think it’s in Singapore, right?
Caleb Beaver (01:30):
Yeah. I think it was weird last or a couple weekends ago,
Sevan Matossian (01:33):
But let me see. U F C schedule. I thought I looked yesterday. Yeah, 7:00 PM Nia Strickland. That’s going to be a good one. The tie to voa fight with Volko will be great. I didn’t see what happened, but this guy in one of the earlier fights, Manal Cappe, he’s on the main card. I guess he got into it with Israel Sya.
Caleb Beaver (01:59):
Oh yeah. And then TWE was in the middle.
Sevan Matossian (02:03):
He was, was it the press conference?
Caleb Beaver (02:06):
Yeah, he was just sitting between the two of them and then he was just like, what the fuck? And they were just yelling at each other, stood up, yelling at each other over the
Sevan Matossian (02:17):
God, I can’t wait. I hope I get to see all of that. I’m hoping So today I go to a jiu-jitsu tournament today with my kids after the show. Right after the show. I’m going to go and then I hope I can come back and work out in the garage and just catch up on all the gossip. U F C Gossip, man. We’re still getting throttled. Are you seeing that? 55. What? A trip.
Caleb Beaver (02:40):
Yeah. That is weird. I will say it probably didn’t help that we scheduled it a little late, but
Sevan Matossian (02:46):
We had our first show under a thousand views in eight months.
Caleb Beaver (02:51):
Yeah. What the hell?
Sevan Matossian (02:53):
Crazy. Steph Sevy. I’ve heard four stories about baby skipping the crawling stage straight to walking. Why is this Can’t be normal. No, no Bueno. You do not want that. I don’t know. Not that I know thousands, but I have accurately picked kids that I see and I’ll be like, yep, that kid didn’t crawl. And I’ve seen all sorts of weird shit. I’ve never seen what I would consider a healthy walker, a healthy mover, A kid who missed the skipping stage. Those carriers, man, I think those carriers are a big problem. People start relying on those and they just put the baby right in the carrier. Or parents just put kids in the stroller. You should do tummy time every day, man. Pretty much soon as you get that fucking baby, even if it’s just starting off, if you’re uncomfortable with it, 10 seconds, you just set a timer for 10 seconds and put the baby on its tummy and then eventually, I mean you won’t even, I want to say something crazy.
At two or three months, all my kids, because I did tummy time with them, were able to roll over. It was something just ridiculous. And they basically are just warring with gravity and it’s uncomfortable to watch at first, but the kids get used to it and then it just ends up being part of their thing and then they figure it out. You’re just having them to walking at nine months. That’s crazy. I also don’t think that that’s ideal, but all the kids that I know that scooted, it’s because they’re normally firstborn children and it’s because the mom or dad was just carrying them way too much and putting them in those carriers. Every time I see baby in one of those carriers, I want to fucking vomit. Not because they’re inherently bad. It’s not like spanking, like beating a kid where you’re like, yep, that’s bad. It’s just that what I suspect of how that carrier is being used. Yeah. See, there it is. Oh, my kid definitely did not sit up at two months tummy time right away. My daughter pushed up, rolled and sat up in less than two months. Yeah. That’s crazy. But yeah, that warring with gravity, dude. Gravity’s a
Caleb Beaver (05:09):
Gravity. It’s weird watching them on tongue tummy time when they try to lift their head up and they barely have the strength to actually pull it up. All of a sudden it just kind of flops back down.
Sevan Matossian (05:19):
Caleb Beaver (05:19):
Weird to watch
Sevan Matossian (05:20):
Carpet. Carpet, although my kids did a lot of time on wood. We had hardwood floors. Cj, our kid crawled at six months, walked at eight months, ran at nine months. Wow. That’s nuts. I don’t think even that walk my kids, I want to say the soonest anyone walked was like 13 months. Avi’s crawling was out of control. It was crazy. I was actually watching his crawling evolve, technique evolve. I was kind of sad when he started walking and even after he started walking, he would still crawl a little bit because he was so good at it. Yeah. Here we go. Brett. Brett Bauer. My baby’s almost two months and loves tummy time now. And if you’re tripping on it, what I used to do, I used to trip on it, especially in the beginning. I would just set a timer or I put the baby on its tummy and as soon as it started crying, then I would start the timer for 30 seconds and give it 30 more seconds. And you know what? Most of the time it would stop crying at least 51%. That shit is huge. Don’t steal that crawling shit from your baby crawling. Essential for B jj. Yeah, that’s true. Yeah, I bet it looked wild seeing an eight month walking. I remember when Avi was walking at 13 months and I told my wife, I’m like, he doesn’t have the intellectual capability of walking, and yet he’s walking. Meaning I, it’s like giving a monkey a cigarette lighter. They have no business with it. Even at two years old, you’re looking at a kid and you’re like, God, you really shouldn’t be walking. You’re a danger to yourself.
My 10 month old just started crawling. Does it crawl on all four? I mean, as long as it’s crawling on all four. As long as, I mean, you want a crawler, you want a crawler. The things I noticed too is there’s this one kid in specific I remember who didn’t crawl. He was a scooter. Do you know what a scooter is? Caleb? Have you ever seen a kid who Scoots.
Caleb Beaver (07:41):
Yeah, they just scoot their butt across the floor. They use their leg and pull themselves forward.
Sevan Matossian (07:45):
Yeah. God, I think it’s sad. Really? Yeah. They move like how you imagine someone move who doesn’t have legs?
Caleb Beaver (07:56):
Okay. It’s like, yeah. Yeah. It’s like when somebody tries to pull guard on you in jiu-jitsu and they’re just scooting towards you to
Sevan Matossian (08:03):
Caleb Beaver (08:03):
Yeah. It’s like that. But a child, right?
Sevan Matossian (08:06):
Yeah. God. It fucking breaks my heart when I see that. But this kid, he now, or when I would see him jump, now something’s off with his jumping. And I remember also as a kid, he jumps like an old person, meaning he can’t take two feet off at the same time and it requires such concentration for him to jump. The kid’s a good athlete too, but something’s wrong with his feet.
Caleb Beaver (08:37):
He does like a one two step into the jump.
Sevan Matossian (08:39):
Yeah. Every time. Yeah. He can’t even if you ask him not to and he’s unstable in his landing and his takeoff is just weird.
Caleb Beaver (08:47):
That’s funny. I’ve never seen that before.
Sevan Matossian (08:51):
Yeah. Crawling iss huge, man. Alright, I got some good stuff for
Sevan Matossian (08:56):
Sevan Matossian (08:59):
I got some good stuff. Don’t hold heavy objects over your kids’ heads either. That’s bad. Steel. Anything that looks like a dumbbell. An anvil. Don’t hold those things over your head. 45 pound plates, not good. 10 pound plates. Not good fractional plates. No, but sevy, they’re so small. They’re only two and a half pounds. No, don’t hold ’em over your kid’s head. Billy Kay Sevy. Great show with Pamela Palm Palma. You’re heck of a conversationalist. I hope you don’t hold little man. I hope the don’t hold little man. I hope your son heals quickly. Yeah, me too. It’s funny, this morning when I was showering, I could hear him in his bedroom with his mom screaming in pain. And then when I came out, he told me he’s in no pain today. And I was like, well wait, I just heard you scream. That reminds me.
Caleb Beaver (10:01):
It’s like if you break your leg, but it’s fine. But then if you just move it one specific direction, it hurts and then everything else is fine after that. It goes away after 30 seconds.
Sevan Matossian (10:16):
I’ve never had a broken leg, so I don’t know. But one of my sons keeps saying, why does it hurt? Why does it hurt? He keeps asking my wife, how could it hurt him? Hello? Hello. Shit, I need to ask my wife to make sure that the GE are in the dryer.
Caleb Beaver (10:43):
Sevan Matossian (10:44):
How often do you wash your ge? You washing off every match?
Caleb Beaver (10:51):
No, I don’t go that often, so I probably just wash ’em once a week.
Sevan Matossian (10:58):
Sevan Matossian (11:02):
I think I figured out a way, by the way to how come this phone’s not working? What the fuck is going on here? And my wife’s not answering her phone.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I’m sorry, but the person you called has a voicemail,
Sevan Matossian (11:22):
A shrinkage for the gee, the dryer. I hope so. The kids’ gis are always too big. I got an idea for the prank caller. If it happens again, I got an idea. I think so. I’m ready. I want to try it. I like the praying collar. I just wish he had funnier shit to say Bernie Gannon. Have you seen feral people who don’t walk traditionally? They move on all fours using the palms of their hand in a bear called feral people. I have seen those people who walk on all four. It’s a trip. Oh, why not dry it? Why you put put gee in dryer? I put gee in dryer to dry it, but I don’t mind if it shrinks. The kid’s gees are huge. Even after I had ’em hemmed, shit,
Caleb Beaver (12:26):
I drive one of my gis and it shrunk and I couldn’t wear it anymore.
Sevan Matossian (12:29):
Oh, and the jacket,
Caleb Beaver (12:32):
Sevan Matossian (12:33):
Oh yeah, yeah. No, my kids, no, it’s fine. My kids aren’t six two. They’re not like Caleb. 6 3, 6 3, 6 2, 6 2. Going to try to have the c e o jersey up for pre-order today. Wow, that’s awesome. It’s a great jersey. It’s awesome.
Caleb Beaver (12:53):
Yeah, those are sick. I
Sevan Matossian (12:56):
Highly recommend it. You’ll like it. Okay. Yeah. Last night’s show was crazy. David, what did you think of last night’s show? Did you see it? Did you think it was too crazy? It’s wild.
Caleb Beaver (13:14):
It was a good show though.
Sevan Matossian (13:17):
Crazy crazy show. Yeah, you saw it. What’d you think? Yeah. Good. Thumbs up. Thumbs down.
Caleb Beaver (13:25):
That’s good shit.
Sevan Matossian (13:26):
Okay, so now the numbers are starting to get back up. Why is that? Susa told me he’s not getting notifications when we go live. Are you guys getting notifications when we go live? Oh, it was awful, David. I think that’s fair to think. It was awful. It was crazy. Oh, David Attaway, the show is great. Okay, what’s up, Jethro? Good morning.
Caleb Beaver (13:52):
Sevan Matossian (13:53):
No, I didn’t get invited to Josh’s wedding, did you? I also know that I have no, I, what’s the word? Not even a tiny bit offended. I’m so not offended that I didn’t get invited to Josh’s wedding, that he should probably be offended that how little I’m offended. Does that make sense? You follow me on that a little bit? A little bit, right? Yeah,
Caleb Beaver (14:24):
Yeah. I get what you’re saying.
Sevan Matossian (14:25):
Caleb Beaver (14:28):
Usually if somebody invites me, I say I can’t go, but then I send them something.
Sevan Matossian (14:33):
Oh yeah. So his loss. Yeah,
Caleb Beaver (14:35):
Sevan Matossian (14:37):
Yeah. Why did he already get married? Can we pull up Josh’s Instagram? Did he already get married? I noticed he posted a picture of his wife that for everyone in the world, every three-legged man in the world appreciated. Excuse me, for the sipping. Oh yeah. Look, Jeffrey knows. Oh, that means he got married. I saw that.
Caleb Beaver (15:08):
Yeah, I think that was his wedding post.
Sevan Matossian (15:13):
Oh, and that’s over. That’s it. Alright. Just like that. Oh shit. Are his kids as tall as him? Lemme see. Go back a second. Is Matt Fraser at his? Wait, go back to that was Matt Fraser at his wedding?
Caleb Beaver (15:25):
Sevan Matossian (15:26):
Caleb Beaver (15:28):
Now I’m offended.
Sevan Matossian (15:30):
Wow. That is fucking awesome. Lemme see who else was there. That is great. Now go back to his kids. Let me see who’s taller. His Wow. One of his kids is about to be taller than ’em already. Crazy. They’re savages.
Caleb Beaver (15:58):
Sevan Matossian (16:03):
It’s not how you flex though, but what’s this slide? They’re just kids. Wow.
Caleb Beaver (16:12):
Sevan Matossian (16:13):
I do think that I’m better friends with Josh than Matt and O’Keefe, which then makes me think that I’m delusional.
Caleb Beaver (16:23):
Right. Maybe you’re not.
Sevan Matossian (16:25):
Yeah. If you were to say who’s better friends with Josh, you O’Keefe and Matt and Josh, or me and Josh, I would say me and Josh, but if I didn’t get invited to the wedding and they did, then that means I’m delusional. But I still can’t even accept that. Isn’t that weird?
Caleb Beaver (16:42):
That is weird.
Sevan Matossian (16:44):
But am I onto something? Yeah. Someone told me the other day, they’re like, boy, you have no shortage of confidence. They meant it as an insult.
Caleb Beaver (16:54):
Of course they did.
Sevan Matossian (17:00):
I need help with that.
Caleb Beaver (17:03):
Having a shortage of confidence.
Sevan Matossian (17:04):
No, I just can’t believe that. I didn’t even know he was friends with Frazier. I know exactly. I didn’t even know that either. That’s what’s weird.
Caleb Beaver (17:13):
Yeah, that is super weird.
Sevan Matossian (17:14):
Bailey Walker, he probably knew you just wouldn’t go. Well, that’s what I’m supposed to say in my head to make sure that my feelings aren’t hurt. Right. That’s how I should think. I’m better friends with Josh than Matt and O’Keeffe far by far. Not even a little bit by far in my head. And then I’m not invited to the wedding. So then I say, well, instead of being like I’m delusional, I go, well that’s because he knew I wouldn’t go. That’s how I work around it. That’s the workaround, right?
Caleb Beaver (17:43):
Yeah. Right. But usually you just say if you know, I don’t know. It depends on how big he wanted his wedding to be, but usually you just send out a bunch of invites or you just send a save the date.
Sevan Matossian (17:56):
Well, here, speaking of Fuckups, you do? Yeah. Save the date or listen. I like Caleb’s logic too. Listen, let me add this here to you to the thing. I think Josh knows you wouldn’t leave the house. I know, but what about getting the present and then he really fucked up by not inviting Sarah Cox. She probably would send an insane present. Don’t worry. I didn’t get the invite either. She probably would’ve given him a beach house to stay at for their honeymoon. They fucked that all up.
Caleb Beaver (18:28):
Mountain cabin. Yeah. Little getaway.
Sevan Matossian (18:31):
And I think Josh’s wife might be Sarah’s realtor for that area where they live.
Caleb Beaver (18:40):
What a connection.
Sevan Matossian (18:43):
Yeah. That was a fuck up. You fucked up. They fucked up. Well, they fucked up if they want gifts. I like getting, I like gifts.
Caleb Beaver (18:51):
That’s the whole point of a wedding is to just get stuff.
Sevan Matossian (18:54):
Caleb Beaver (18:55):
Sevan Matossian (18:56):
What’s the other reason? So that you’re supposed to bear witness. It’s social pressure, right? People bear witness to your commitment to the girl. That way you don’t cheat on her or she doesn’t leave you or shit like that.
Caleb Beaver (19:07):
Yeah. To appease your grandparents by getting them married in a Catholic church. That’s why you get married.
Sevan Matossian (19:15):
Bernie, did you get married in a Catholic church?
Caleb Beaver (19:17):
Sevan Matossian (19:19):
Bernie Gannon. Did Josh post any photos with the Lone Ranger and Tonto? I don’t know. Were they there?
Caleb Beaver (19:26):
No, I didn’t see any pictures of that.
Sevan Matossian (19:36):
A lot of people don’t want you to feel obligated to get them something. I think that’s them being fake. Everyone wants something
Caleb Beaver (19:45):
That’s your own fault. If you think that,
Sevan Matossian (19:47):
Yeah, I hear you, but I don’t buy it.
Caleb Beaver (19:50):
You just put a bunch of stuff on the registry that’s like under 50 bucks.
Sevan Matossian (19:54):
How much does it cost? Go ahead. Go ahead, sorry.
Caleb Beaver (19:57):
And then there’s some other things that’s crazy outlandish that maybe one or two people would buy for you. Okay. I want an espresso machine, but I also want new spatulas and so somebody can get you some random spatulas and a plunger that looks like a piece of poop.
Sevan Matossian (20:11):
I used to think registries were just completely stupid. But then as I got older, I was like, yeah, that’s smart.
Caleb Beaver (20:18):
Sevan Matossian (20:18):
I used to think they were kind of gross and now then I grew into ’em. What’s the total cost to marry someone?
Caleb Beaver (20:29):
Sevan Matossian (20:30):
Isn’t there a way you figure it out for each person you invite. It’s like $200,
Caleb Beaver (20:39):
Whatever you get for food or wherever you go to have your reception and stuff. They’ll say it’s like, oh, it’s like a hundred dollars a plate. And then, okay, now you have 50 people show up. So you have, it’s going to be $5,000 just to plate all the food just for everybody to get a meal basically. And it depends on how many people you want to invite, all that stuff.
Sevan Matossian (21:04):
It seems so stressful because then you’re also waiting for these people to
Caleb Beaver (21:11):
Sevan Matossian (21:11):
Respond, yeah. I’m not having a wedding. I’m not doing that. I’m not doing that. Is the food the most expensive? I thought weddings were like $50,000.
Caleb Beaver (21:26):
Yeah, for sure
Sevan Matossian (21:28):
They are. So how much is that? Can you look that at how average cost of a wedding in the U S A? What is that? God, what a waste of fucking money.
Caleb Beaver (21:43):
Sevan Matossian (21:44):
Is that what it says? Yeah. Fucking stupid. So stupid. Okay. If you make $300,000 a year, that’s 10% of your well after taxes, that’s 20% of your, after you put in taxes in four one K. That’s like 20% of your yearly income. 20%. Are you fucking kidding me?
Caleb Beaver (22:21):
I will say my wedding was the greatest party on the planet. It was so much fun.
Sevan Matossian (22:25):
Oh, it was?
Caleb Beaver (22:26):
Yeah. It was so worth it.
Sevan Matossian (22:28):
Okay. All right. I’ll
Caleb Beaver (22:29):
Buy that for me personally. For me.
Sevan Matossian (22:30):
Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I That depends on how gullible you are. We did a D situation beach wedding with 30 people for 12 k Mountain mama. I can plan a beautiful wedding for $300. That’s when you’re glad all your friends are in AA and shit. You probably save a lot of money if no one drinks.
Caleb Beaver (23:00):
Yeah, we had an open bar. That’s another thing about weddings. Nobody wants to go to one and have to pay extra money.
Sevan Matossian (23:08):
I agree. I so agree. Open bar wedding’s the best. I agree. God. And I’ve had some fun at weddings. I’ve never been to a wedding. Actually. The truth is I hate going to weddings. I’ve never been to a wedding that I didn’t enjoy myself.
Caleb Beaver (23:21):
Sevan Matossian (23:22):
Yeah. I’ve had fun at every single wedding. I’ve never gone and been like, wow, that was, it’s like Disneyland. I’m not having fun. It’s like work. It’s not bad, but it’s work. But weddings are dope.
Caleb Beaver (23:37):
Weddings, it’s like a big gathering of everybody that you don’t get to see on a regular basis.
Sevan Matossian (23:40):
And I feel like everyone there is more stressed out than me, which kind of makes me feel good.
Caleb Beaver (23:45):
Sevan Matossian (23:46):
Caleb Beaver (23:46):
To cater to you the whole
Sevan Matossian (23:47):
Time. Yeah. I’m so chill. Stuffing myself with cake, drinking free booze, watching other people’s couples fight and shit.
Caleb Beaver (23:57):
Sevan Matossian (23:58):
Caleb Beaver (23:59):
That’s the good
Sevan Matossian (24:00):
Stuff. I’m just getting drunk and looking at my wife thinking, can’t wait to take you home. Matt Fraser and O’Keefe often talk about how much they enjoyed attending Caleb. Do you think that Matt O’Keefe and Matt Fraser were there going, wow, we thought Josh likes Seon more than us and yet we’re here and he’s not. You think they were?
Caleb Beaver (24:32):
They’re like, I wonder if he actually got an invite.
Sevan Matossian (24:38):
Seon. Can we get a discount code for the born primitive shoes? I could ask. Could ask. It’s kind of early in the morning to do that, but I’ll do it.
Caleb Beaver (24:55):
It’s 10 30 here in his time. So he’s awake.
Sevan Matossian (25:02):
I’m telling you. Do not listen. Do not. The whole reason afterwards I talked to Taylor, he has no reason to not like those shoes and those rad shoes. I don’t mean to take dig at them, but I wouldn’t be caught dead in those one because the way they look. I just think they’re all just feminine. Reebok 80 shit. But also the way the toe is, I mean, I haven’t worn them, so I don’t know. Maybe I’d put them on and be like, these are the greatest shoes ever. But if you have wide feet, I’m telling you, the born primitive shoes are nuts. It is the nano two.
There’s three big differences between the born primitive and the nano two. The tongue in the born primitive does not move around. Like the nano two, the nano two always slides off and you have to go down and straighten it out. It does not do that at all. It hugs the top of your foot. Yeah. The second thing is you do feel the ground way more in the born primitive. It is a thinner sole and so you do feel the ground. If you don’t like that, then that maybe that like a vivo, not you. I’ve never worn a vivo, but you do feel the ground more
Caleb Beaver (26:12):
Sevan Matossian (26:13):
And then the third thing is that the bottom, at first when I put it on, I was like, I felt like maybe I had a little less stability than the nano two. Because the nano two hangs out past the shoe. I feel like the sole of the nano two hangs out past the shoe just to smidge more than the born primitive. So I thought I had a better base, but at the end of the day I was like, actually I feel a little more nimble in the born primitive because the sole isn’t so big. Do you know what I mean? Know how the shoe sits on top of the sole. I feel like the Nano two sole hangs out just a little past the shoe, whereas the born primitive is maybe a little inside of it. So those are the three things. But the Bourne primitive is so nice. It is a classy clean shoe. And that’s another thing, it’s a classy clean shoe. You can wear it everywhere. It doesn’t even look like a tennis shoe. It’s nice. It’s dope. I’m pumped on it. I felt nothing weird on my toes. I haven’t run in it yet. I mean on the runner, but man, it’s sick. I’ll ask them. What am I saying bear? Are there discount codes for Nano two? Oh bear.
How do I say that? But not also care. Are there discount codes for shoe? People on show are asking No pressure. Just want to answer correctly. No pressure. Just want to make sure I answer correctly. Can there be a discount code for a shoot? It’s already out and I don’t know. They were saying it’s ugly too. It’s fucking, oh, let me see that first one. What’s that first one with the red on it? Wow. I have the black one. I like it. I’m cool. Yeah, it’s cool. It is dope. Damn. Those are expensive.
Caleb Beaver (28:23):
That’s like a normal shoe price these days.
Sevan Matossian (28:25):
It is. Yeah. Damn.
Caleb Beaver (28:30):
Yeah, it’s crazy.
Sevan Matossian (28:34):
Yeah. Taylor, I think ripped on Danny Spiegel. Danielle, Brandon NorCal. Classic born Primitive Shoe Pro cards. No tread equals slippery. Lemme see the bottom again. I didn’t, how did you feel about
Caleb Beaver (29:02):
That? It looks weird.
Sevan Matossian (29:05):
That’s as much tread. I mean, I’d have to look. Do I have nano twos in here somewhere? I don’t know. I thought it was, I haven’t noticed. I thought it was dope. It’s been sunny here, so all the ground is hot and probably sticky everywhere I go. But the Vitos are very slippery. After you’ve worn ’em for a few weeks, the soul just wears right down.
Caleb Beaver (29:27):
Yeah, those look like skate shoes. The Vitos do.
Sevan Matossian (29:33):
All right. I like the innovates that you all also like. So I think we like similar shoes. Which innovates do I like? Do I? I haven’t worn Innovates in 10 years, 15 years. I think she’s talking to Vate. Oh, alright. I wonder how many of these I can get through Shit. We’re 30 minutes in. I.
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